Giving away $7 to anyone who registers at 12dailypro FREE $7
millionaire760807
15-10-2005 10:18:55
Hello
I currently average $5,000 every 34 days with 12dailypro with an investment of $6,000 not including referall money.
Since this program is SO Amazing, I am giving away $7 to anyone who upgrades/invests into 12dailypro with my referall link
The $7 will turn into $10.04 after 12 days. They pay u around 6 days after to ur payment processor. The two processors they use are e-gold and stormpay. The $7 I pay will be from egold. The minimum investment at 12dailypro is $6 and the maximum is $6,000.
I am giving away $7 for people to try it out for themselves and see how it works for free.
Anyone whos interested, pm or reply.
Good Luck.
Cgb8000
15-10-2005 11:09:06
im sorry. what? what does this service provide?
mikedb
15-10-2005 11:47:33
I could be wrong on this, and please correct me if i am, but when i looked at this, i decided against it, on the grounds that this is the equivalent to a pyramid scheme, unsustainable.
Basically, you pay in to the site, do a trivial activity for a period of time, and then recieve back your initial deposit with lots of interest.
The SOLE way this is funded is from new users paying in, so one the number of new users stops exponentially growing, the site closes, with all your money gone.
It is a great way to make a quick buck, but i wouldnt put in anything that you cant afford to easily lose.
This guy is offering a free initial deposit, so by all means, go ahead.
And PS, watch out for biased reiews of the site by the average joe... it is in his best interestes for the site to get lots of new users
Correct me if im wrong.. this info isnt especially easy to find, so this is just what ive gathered.
millionaire7608
15-10-2005 14:11:58
12dailypro is NOT a pyramid scheme.
here is my response to your statement
You know, a lot of people throw around the word 'ponzi' around this industry without really knowing its true meanings and implications.
It sounds catchy, so people go tag this and that program with it.
Please read the Wikipedia definition of ponzi here...
http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme
As you can see it VERY clearly states that a ponzi scheme is based on the solicitation of INVESTMENTS and the need for an increasing number of new investors to pay out older investors. There is no actual purchase or any goods or services. Only the expectation of a return of profit on that investment.
In order for something to be considered a ponzi scheme in the eyes of the US government, it must be an investment offering, it does not provide any product or service in exchange for monies taken in, and it must depend on a growing number of new investors to survive.
Autosurfs are NOT ponzis, as... 1) there is no investment offering, 2) In exchange for member fees, members receive a tangible advertising product or service, 3) most do not guarantee anything, 4) since there is no investment in the first place, there is no promise of any profit, 5) if a program is structured properly it could exist indefinitely after ending new sign-ups at any given time because it cycles its members monies.
Somewhere down the line it got injected or assumed that having a lack of multiple income streams was a determiner for whether a program was a ponzi or not. As you can see by the Wikipedia and the US law definitions, there is no mention whatsoever of this. This is some weird perception that people in this microcosm of an industry have deemed to have some importance, though it has no legal basis.
I mean, think about it. Let's look at another industry and see if this theory holds any water. How about a private country club. A private country club provides a select community with the opportunity to play golf on beautiful greens, eat in in fine dining, get their shoes shined and network with other business people and socialites. How can they provide these products and services? Membership fees. Period. Members pay for the services and members get the services.
Does the country club have to create additional income streams in order to provide the services? No. Does the country club have to invest member fees in outside ventures in order to provide the services? No. Does the government say they have to? No. If new member sales slow is the country club still able to remain open? Yes. Why? Because they have an existing roster of members that they provide excellent service to who aren't going anywhere.
Think about it another way, if autosurfs were illegal ponzi schemes, why exactly would there be millions of them on the internet as we speak? When's the last time you saw an America's Most Wanted about a hardened autosurf criminal. Never. Why, because autosurfs are not ponzi scheme and thus not illegal.
Now, I will personally atest to the fact that IF an autsurf does choose to create multiple income streams and make outside investments, it will be MUCH more successful and can successfully grow leaps and bounds beyond others. Hence the success of 12dp where most others have failed. It's about a solid business plan. Applying basic brick and mortar business principles to an industry that has never been exposed to such things. This is where we have created our niche.
Now autosurf scams are a different story. In every industry there are business people with good and bad morals. This industry is no better; probably worse than most unfortunately. But all you have to do is conduct proper due diligence and common sense and you will be fine.
I am also going to include a quote from an admin at 12dailypro
"We are NOT a ponzai scheme, thus our program makes money the old fashioned and moral way, we invest in other ventures. In order to be successful in our investments we must be able to determine exactly how much money is flowing in and out at any given time. We can do that with our 12 day system because we can determine how much will go out based on how much has come in 12 days earlier. So, we then know how much we can safely invest in our long terms investments.
If we let people compound their earnings and buy upgrades with earnings, we would never be able to determine how much money would need to be in reserve to be paid out at any given time. Because it would be at the whim of each and every one of our thousands of members when they decided to actually take their cash out and exactly how much. We could never successfully make long term investments with that form of program.
If you'd rather we allowed everyone to compound at will, our reserve fund to dry up and us to be gone in 3 months, that would be the way to insure it.
Don't you ever wonder how some other programs are able to pay free members, pay referral commissions, and allow upgrading with earnings? Most do it solely by relying on incoming fees from new members. And if you do the math, that will eventually dry up. They can't keep up that pace because eventually they will have saturated the market for new members. And then they will be gone...more than likely with your money.
But we are not going to go that route. We plan to be here a long time. At some point after we have established ourselves as a solid program with a significant reserve fund, we may allow this option. But for now, we want to grow, not take your money and run.
Hope this makes some sense. "
They pay you a 44% increase on your money every 12 days and they pay 7 business days later or sooner
The SOLE way its funded is NOT from new users. They make money from advertising, online, and offline investments.
This site has the best reviews anywhere on the net. visit www.autosurfmonitor.com
mikedb
15-10-2005 14:20:30
Fair enough, i was just posting my gatherings from forums devoted to this sort of thing.
All I wonder, is why such a small company can make returns of 2400%/year with "investments", when much larger investments can only pay 10% at best.
Therefore, i jsut dont believe it. I am not bashing your offer, just saying what i have guessed, as i made clear.
Mike
millionaire7608
15-10-2005 14:29:23
[quote53ca7faacf="mikedb"]Fair enough, i was just posting my gatherings from forums devoted to this sort of thing.
All I wonder, is why such a small company can make returns of 2400%/year with "investments", when much larger investments can only pay 10% at best.
Therefore, i jsut dont believe it. I am not bashing your offer, just saying what i have guessed, as i made clear.
Mike[/quote53ca7faacf]
You can believe what you want to believe. I believe the payments I am getting from 12dailypro.
This company 'Lifeclicks LLC' has a collective fourteen years of experience in the areas of marketing, advertising, media, and online investments.
They are a US company, with an address, a phone number, and are NetIba certified. Visit www.NetIba.com to see what that means.
No other online autosurf business has ever provided this.
mikedb
15-10-2005 14:30:37
very well... by all means, those were jsut my assumtions.
millionaire760807
16-10-2005 06:28:26
This company is increasing exponentially. 800 member a day join. Don't get left behind.
I am now going to include a quote from an admin at the 12dailypro forum. It includes their plans for the upcoming months. This quote is 2 months old.
It’s an exciting time here at 12daily Pro and we wanted to take this time to update you on some key milestones as well as give you a glimpse into the future of our program. We are well aware that this is somewhat of a volatile time in the ‘paid autosurf’ industry as many seemingly stable programs are experiencing difficulties, disappearing or closing the doors due to poor performance. In light of these recent events, we are sure many of you are curious and perhaps wary about our 12daily Pro’s ability to continue to deliver results for our members and to solidify ourselves for the long term.
There are a few things we want to address today
1. How are we doing?
2. Why will we succeed, last, and grow?
3. What are our plans for the future?
4. What can you do to help?
How are we doing?
The waters are beginning to calm after our recent server move and the introduction of the new site. The staff has been busy fine-tuning the scripts, correcting accounts, answering mountains of emails, and manning our new and improved forum. We have had an awesome response to the new site and functionality; members are happy and that has translating into phenomenal growth. We have now reached close to 18,000 members since our pre-launch in May. Currently there are approximately 4100 Pro-Upgraded Members. The number of members participating at the 3K level and above have tripled in the past month. In July the number of upgrades purchased also tripled from the number purchased in June. We have the highest rating, by far, on Autosurfmonitor.com with outstanding comments from our supportive members. Our Alexa.com rating has gone from around 16,500 to 8904 in less than 2 months, surpassing many other popular programs on the net and hot on the tails of the top 2 major players in the industry. So, how are we doing? Thanks to our awesome members…phenomenal!
Why will we succeed, last, and grow?
We read daily emails and forum posts that ask us how we plan to avoid the pitfalls that have befallen other programs in recent months. The other thing everyone wants to know is how long we will be around. There are even polls and bets on other forums trying to wager how long we will last. When we first launched, many said we wouldn’t last 3 months. There are people out there, probably some of you, waiting for the rug to be pulled out. Well, we’ve got some news for those people. Don’t hold your breath! We are here for the long haul. The way we see it, those other ‘seemingly’ stable programs failed primarily because they were never really stable in the first place. Just because a program pays doesn’t mean that it is built on solid business principals or even that the math works out for long term sustainability.
Before we could even consider launching 12DP, we spent months studying the industry, watching trends, seeing what worked and what didn’t work, and working the numbers to insure we could sustain long term growth. We are happy to say that we are not now scrambling to figure out how we will keep from going down the tubes like other programs, because our program was specifically designed with that in mind. We insured our own success and yours long before we ever sold our first upgrade unit. These are top 10 reasons why we will be here long after the others are gone
1. We do not pay free members.
2. We do not allow upgrading with earnings.
3. We do not give free upgrades for joining.
4. We provide consistent communication and superior member support.
5. We only allow 2 upgrade units at a time.
6. We use a limited number of payment processors.
7. We provide our members with unique advertising opportunities
8. We invest a percentage of incoming $ into a long term portfolio.
9. We will continue to improve our technology.
10. We will research, develop, and implement new features, programs, and sites to grow and strengthen the 12DP network.
What are our plans for the future?
12DP is in it for the long haul. Currently we are working on fine-tuning the new site but there will be some exciting things to look for in the near future.
Within 1 month…
- A new e-ticket support system
- An expanded forum and community area
- A more detailed and functional Top 12 and Pro Directory
- A more powerful ‘Site of the Week’ advertising opportunity
- Addition of voicemail and fax #s for member use
Within 3 months
- New referral incentives & bonuses
- New contests and drawings
- Launch of second site in the 12DP network
- Addition of Live Help feature
- Key strategic partnerships
- Increase maximum sites members can surf
Within 6 months
- Launch of official 12DP Offline Affiliate Program
- Launch of third site in the 12DP network
Within 12 months
- Launch of 4th site in the 12DP network
- Launch of mainstream/offline advertising campaign
These are just few things in the works; this list is by no means exhaustive and there is much more research and development to do. We will update you as we get closer to the completion of each of these exciting developments!
What can you do to help?
Promote, promote, promote! And upgrade, upgrade, upgrade! Also, be sure to vote for us on autosurfmonitor.com, post your payment successes on our forum, and review our site on Alexa.com!
Change in IP address policy
We are changing our IP address policy as of 8/9/2005. The new policy we be as follows Members are allowed to signup and surf from different IP addresses. surf sessions can have different IP address, so members without static IP addresses don't need to worry about losing their accounts. There can be more than one account per IP address, however, accounts that share an IP address cannot serve as each other’s upline or downline. This new policy will apply to all existing and new members. If you have any questions about this new policy, PLEASE DO NOT EMAIL US. Instead, feel free to click on the FORUM link and post your questions there.
Upgrade Guide
Our staff has been swamped with emails about upgrade purchases not showing up on member accounts. We have found that 9 times out of ten this problem in occurring because these members are not fully completing the upgrade process. They are forgetting to click ‘Continue’ which brings them back to our site after the purchase verification. We ask that ALL members, even if you ‘think’ you are doing it write, please click on the upgrade link and review our new Upgrade Guide.
So, that’s it for now. As always, thanks for going PRO….andurl==http://=http:///url we are glad to have you as an integral part of the 12DP revolution!
Charis
12daily Pro Admin