Opinions wanted

Live forum: http://forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=13414

dcrainmaker

04-05-2005 08:11:04

If you engage in a trade with another user and you green first, do you think the other user should go ahead and add you to the GTL since you've already made good on your side of the trade?

What about users who refuse to do so until their side is green? Why would someone require that unless they had concerns about the manner in which their side of the trade would be completed? Seems to me a user that requires THEIR side to green (after you've already done so) before nominating you is simply using their nomination of you as collateral against you possibly complaining about their not following through in a timely manner.

Thoughts?

clearestchannel40

04-05-2005 08:14:33

[quote623dffb468="Admin"]Once both parties request TR for the trade, it will appear in a special admin-only panel where we can review the trade and credit + delete it as we see appropriate. Remember, trades among new users will still not be credited, and all the old rules apply. If you are requesting TR, make sure to indicate what was traded for in one or both of the 'notes' field.
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Phbs83

04-05-2005 08:17:12

CC40 - that's for the trade module) DC asked for the regular GTL thread.

Yes, I think the other person should nominate you when you go green. That's what I always wanted to do, but some of the people I traded with had concerns about this. You made your part of the deal after all...

dcrainmaker

04-05-2005 08:32:58

thanks, Phbs...again, I have yet to see an argument be presented for why one would refuse to nominate you until after THEIR offer has gone green when you've already made good on your end.

adam254

04-05-2005 08:35:24

Probably because who knows how long it'll take for theirs to go green, so they just wait until both are green so the posts in the Good Trader's Thread aren't spread out like 3 pages. Once both go green you can each most likely post on the same page, thus easier to find.

dcrainmaker

04-05-2005 08:37:55

that's a pretty lame explanation. I'd say my suggestion in the original post is [i87716e39aa]much[/i87716e39aa] more likely to be the reason.

regardless, if that is indeed the explanation, I wonder why the user in question hasn't offered it in any of our exchanges over this issue.

slowdown

04-05-2005 09:43:58

Also there used to be a rule on the The Old Good Trader List that they would'nt credit a trade until both traders had compleated there side and posted, in that case it would be much easer to find if ya'll waited and posted about the same time. (but dont know if the mods go by that anymore)

dcrainmaker

04-05-2005 09:51:07

what you refer to is no longer in the rules.

the bottom line is that my getting credit for completing my side of a trade shouldn't be contingent on anything but my going green.

slease

04-05-2005 09:52:42

correct, he should nominate you for a TR point. I've never completed a trade with CC40 but if I was in the position I would insist that he nominate me now.

dcrainmaker

04-05-2005 09:54:53

thanks, slease. if there were a legitimate explanation for not doing so, I'd let it go, but he's yet to offer one.

clearestchannel40

04-05-2005 09:59:36

Listen, I have enough problems than to worry about this.

1- Don't threaten me via PM
2- My rules are "I nominate after completed trade"

After all this, I don't see why I should nominate you at all. You are not a good trader. My TR wont be hurt by you not posting. After all, there is no requirement to post a +1 anyway.

Final Say Shut up and wait or I will not nominate at all. Go ahead call me shady, I got about 30 people that will disagree with you.

CC40. Nextel...Done.

dcrainmaker

04-05-2005 10:09:40

How the hell am I "not a good trader?" I'm the one who's already gone green, and did so immediately after agreeing to trade.

Then again, trying to be rational with you is absolutely pointless. And, for the record, it's not as if I need your TR point either--it's just a matter of principle. And if those are indeed your "rules," you need to explicitly state them upfront.

slease

04-05-2005 10:13:32

cc40, if he went green for you than you need to nominate him. this is one of the reasons people have problems with you, you're acting irrationally.

Darkness

04-05-2005 10:19:00

CC40, you are way out of line.

I've traded with dcrainmaker and he was extremely patient and went out of his way to make our trade work. heck, I needed my green pretty fast so he went ahead and did his side on good faith that I had completed an offer, even though I had no TR.

why are you so scared to nominate him? afraid you won't follow through and get called out for it later?

clearestchannel40

04-05-2005 10:24:11

Not at all, I will for now on nominate all people upon green. Except for dcrainmaker. I have had it with people messing with me and making posts against me. I am not taking it from this guy. Stop now, or no point at all. Everyone else will be nominated upon green. Thank You.

I am making a post now nominating 4 people who also greened on macminis4free.com for me.

dcrainmaker

04-05-2005 10:28:38

boy, that makes a lot of sense--change your policy because it was exposed as BS, but try and punish the person who exposed you. if the policy is indeed unfair, as you now implicitly acknowledge it to be, shouldn't it change for everyone? how immature can you be?

and, just for the record, this post wasn't "against you" considering you weren't named anywhere in it. Only after you made it obvious that it involved you did we start openly acknowledging your involvement. I was simply trying to find out the consensus on the board with regard to issues such as this.

It's pretty damn funny that you had the nerve to call me "defensive" in the trading post, when it was your defensive nature that exposed your involvement in the situation I posted about.

clearestchannel40

04-05-2005 10:36:42

Fantastic. I am done.

Also, it was because you followed two of my posts just to hammer me. Chill youself out.

dcrainmaker

04-05-2005 10:41:22

[quote7d75dd7423="clearestchannel40"]Fantastic. I am done.

Also, it was because you followed two of my posts just to hammer me. Chill youself out.[/quote7d75dd7423]

Surprise...another post from CC40 lacking any substance.

And, no, I followed ONE of your posts and, in doing so, all I did was explicitly state your "rules" (something you fail to do until AFTER the fact) so that potential traders knew what your policy was with regard to the GTL. That's IT. Hell, I didn't even offer a judgment as to whether or not such a policy was good, bad, or otherwise. I just stated what it was.

If the policy wasn't unfair, why were you so threatened by my bringing it to light?

If making sense and offering the truth (as opposed to your gross misrepresentations of what has taken place between us) equates to getting worked up, then I guess I do need to "chill [myself] out."