Now it's Our Turn

being form the UK, im interested in the current elections that are taking place over there at the moment. for anybody who didnt even know we were having elections, heres a link to the BBC that should explain it for you....thats whether you give a shit or not.

http//news.bbc.co.uk/nol/ifs_news/hi/uk_news/politics/vote_2005/default.stm

im hoping that charles kenndedy's Liberal Democrats win. fuck tony blair and i never want another conservative government....ever.....so thats who im rooting for the lib dems......who do i think will win?

tony fuckin blair. (

Well, someone detonated a bomb outside the UK Consolate(sp) in NYC. People piss me off.. Especially attention seekers.

Tony Blair is the best thing that you guys could have ever received

[quote649fbb4d2e="RealtorKen"]Tony Blair is the best thing that you guys could have ever received[/quote649fbb4d2e]

Right on, Ken

any particular reason? or just because?

Tony, go n-ithe an cat thú is go n-ithe an diabhal an cat
Teip,Teip,Teip,Teip

exactly slowdown....i dont think tony likes cats either so that would be a bonus D

Conservatives are what keep this planet spinning. D

And liberals are here to make sure the conservatives don't lock all the minorities in jail and declare ourselves a theocracy P

We all have our purposes.

I remember a couple elections ago when Tony Blaire won with some huge percentage of the vote, like 90 or something, am I remembering correctly. Anyways I like the guy, don't know his politics though.

He's the best ally the US has had.

I don't care if you are liberal or conservative - agree with the war in iraq or not - we need all the support we can get, and with Tony in charge, we will be much better off.

[quote78de5b39d7="wood"]He's the best ally the US has had.

I don't care if you are liberal or conservative - agree with the war in iraq or not - we need all the support we can get, and with Tony in charge, we will be much better off.[/quote78de5b39d7]

As a die hard conservative, I must commend the above for their statements. Extreme liberalism is a mental disorder. I stand firm by that. The idea that everything must be twisted to each person's liking is ridiculous. I don't care who you are. George Bush and Tony Blair are an amazing team and together are fighting an amazing war on terrorism and global threats.

Take a look at the people who represent the American Liberals

Al Sharpton - 110% crook. Steals more from the black community than he puts in. Fat lying prick.

Teddy Kennedy - Bumbling drunken fool, and he's a Kennedy. Drives a car off a bridge and allows his mistress to die before calling the police the NEXT morning.

John Kerry - His face has had more ammendments than the constitution himself. In order to vote for Kerry, you have to vote against him first.

Bill Clinton - Neglected his presidential duties and hid far away from conflict. Not to mention, when his pants were up, he also bombed the hell out of Kosovo, 10X more than we are in Iraq with Bush.

Hillary Clinton - Claimed to be named after Sir Edmund Hilary who scaled Mount Everest. On top of the spelling of the names being different, Sir Edmund Hilary scaled Mount Everest three years after her birth. Looks like slick Willie ain't the only liar in the family.

Michael Bloomberg - A convert to the Republican party prior to the NYC elections just to get the vote. Implemented the most disgusting smoking laws and has sat back and backstabbed the Grand Ole' Party once too many times.

Jimmy Carter - Responsible for allowing Cuban prisoners into the country. Don't believe me? Go to Miami, some of the older hispanic men have numbers on their biceps. He also opened the borders and made USA citizenship nothing but a signature. Disgusting.

John F. Kennedy - Smoked some Mary Jane with his mistress in the White House, on top of handling this country poorly. His evil scorpian woman of a wife ain't too admirable either.

Michael Moore - Biggest bullshitter of the 21st Century. This bastard has publicized more unfitting lies and garbage than Wesley Willis. I have never seen so much useless shit hit the mainstream since The Man Show.

The point is, I believe that when my party is being carried out in chains everytime a person with another view expresses their freedom of speech, time to look elsewhere.

The liberals contradict the very doctrines they are fighting to protect. They had a riot when the RNC came to to New York. Um, freedom..of...speech?

All you Pro-Choice motherfuckers can just go to hell too, a baby is a life, no matter what. Fuck the trimesters, from conception to birth, it is a human, accept that.

I will not conform to some bullshit propaganda like my peers just because Blink182 and NoFX tell me to. Stop with all this trash and stop taking up the media time with your fabricated lies.

George W. Bush is not responsible for 90% of the shit thrown on him. We are in Iraq because there was a despot mistreating his people and making direct threats against America since 1982. We also found transcripts of three tons of RDX being stashed away in Russia. Go ahead, withdraw, more people will die as a result of withdrawal than if we stay in and live of the promise of spreading peace and democracy throughout the world and unifying us all as one constant team against all those to bring us harm.

September 11th opened my eyes to new ideas and concepts, I am very wordy and verbal when it comes to political views and ideologies. I am sorry if this seems boring to you. Most other 16 year olds don't listen to me, I hope I am among a forum of decent adults that are not going to thrash back with empty thoughts that I am too young or immature to understand what is going on in this world.

I leave you all with a quote
"If you are not liberal by 20, you have no heart, if you are not a conservative by 40, you have no mind."-Winston Churchill

-Thank You CC40

All I have to say about Bush is he still hasnt managed to catch the person responsible for 9/11 Osama after how many years has it been...yeah his priorities are in the right place...

[quote5ac3e42947="PoPoJiJo"]All I have to say about Bush is he still hasnt managed to catch the person responsible for 9/11 Osama after how many years has it been...yeah his priorities are in the right place...[/quote5ac3e42947]

Yesterday, we captured our #3 man, so expect some more details concerning the whereabouts of Osama. Also, I would like to add that the fight on terror is a worldwide effort. Osama is an international terrorist. We are working with the Pakastani government to capture Osama and bring him to justice.

CC40... you are too young to be thinking like a middle aged bible thumper. You need a heart.

And do you really think bringing abortion into this forum is appropriate? This whole post should be locked just for that. This will get messy and you started it.

yet we can find sadam hiding in a hole and what did he do to us oh yeah nothing, oh wait he had WMD oh no no He didn't
If we really wanted to find him we would have by now period their is no excuse with the tech they have at their disposal

eh, osama is in pakistan in areas that the pakistani government does not control. the pakistani government does not control a good portion of the northwestern region of parkistan yet we can't go into it because it would violate their borders. unless we send in military assasins with good info we're kind of up a creek without a paddle on that one. i would love to see this man strung up as much as the next guy but it probably will not happen before he dies of natural causes.

[quote7ef1007f6d="PoPoJiJo"]yet we can find sadam hiding in a hole and what did he do to us oh yeah nothing, oh wait he had WMD oh no no He didn't
If we really wanted to find him we would have by now period their is no excuse with the tech they have at their disposal[/quote7ef1007f6d]

WMD = 3 Tons of RDX

What did he do? No way, he definately didn't threaten us and torture his own people! I know that! Thousands of families weren't being tortued, kids weren't crying, and the Kurds weren't being discrimated against.

Your 100% Right Papijahjih

Iraq was about oil, plain and simple. Their existence in the oil market hurt our oil prices, it was just a happy secondary thing that Saddam was a terrible dictator and had a bone to pick with the Bush family.

WMD... that excuse doesn't work as long as North Korea exists. If we were picking a battle over WMD's then we would have been bombing North Korea before Iraq.

[quoteb44ffd9740="slease"]Iraq was about oil, plain and simple. Their existence in the oil market hurt our oil prices, it was just a happy secondary thing that Saddam was a terrible dictator and had a bone to pick with the Bush family.

WMD... that excuse doesn't work as long as North Korea exists. If we were picking a battle over WMD's then we would have been bombing North Korea before Iraq.[/quoteb44ffd9740]

North Korea is a dead battle. They have Chinese support, thats an instant loss for us. Kim Jong Il is retaining from posing a direct threat towards us. How could this war be about oil? Haven't the gas prices been going up? Hmm...that could be because we have contracters over discussing oil trade over with the...new IRAQI OFFICIALS. How come we didn't attack Saudi Arabia over oil, I mean, Osama is Saudi, oh yeah thats right, no threat. If you doubt our president's capabilities to make wise decisions. Go take over the seat and then come back and watch how many people will disaprove.

The North Korean situation is way more compex than that. The Chinese supported North Korea in battle 50 years ago but things have changed alot since then. China depends on our trade with them, there is no way they would risk trade relations with the US to protect Koreans. China is not at the military power point where they are a match for us yet as well.

The reason gas prices are going up is because our government subsidizes our oil. That is the reason we pay 1/5th of what the rest of the developed world pays for oil. The reason we didn't go into Saudi Arabia was because we have no reason to go in there. Saudi Arabia freely trades its vast ammounts of oil with us. We had a trade embargo on Iraqi oil and could not purchase that oil from the market. That meant that we were forced to purchase our oil from our neighbors and OPEC. Once Iraq's economy stabilizes they are going to be looking for a new trading partner overseas, and who do you think they are going to pick? Iraq will bring us cheap oil in a price per barrell sense, not in a pump at the station sense.

[quote27915a281d="slease"]The North Korean situation is way more compex than that. The Chinese supported North Korea in battle 50 years ago but things have changed alot since then. China depends on our trade with them, there is no way they would risk trade relations with the US to protect Koreans. China is not at the military power point where they are a match for us yet as well.

The reason gas prices are going up is because our government subsidizes our oil. That is the reason we pay 1/5th of what the rest of the developed world pays for oil. The reason we didn't go into Saudi Arabia was because we have no reason to go in there. Saudi Arabia freely trades its vast ammounts of oil with us. We had a trade embargo on Iraqi oil and could not purchase that oil from the market. That meant that we were forced to purchase our oil from our neighbors and OPEC. Once Iraq's economy stabilizes they are going to be looking for a new trading partner overseas, and who do you think they are going to pick? Iraq will bring us cheap oil in a price per barrell sense, not in a pump at the station sense.[/quote27915a281d]

Well. I must give credit where credit is due. I admit defeat. Slease you are very knowledgable and I admit I do not have an offhand rebuttal. We may disagree, but you gave me a good arguement.

Kudos.

lol, I tip my hat to you good sir, well played.

[quote2abf5918fb="slease"]lol, I tip my hat to you good sir, well played.[/quote2abf5918fb]
+ Karma ;)

What happened to all your negative karma? Which mod was that kind, lol.

ya im a conservativee to nice goin CC40

shit i only posted to bring attention to the fact that we are having elections in the UK......oh and tony blair was re-elected for a 3rd time. yay......its pointless me giving my point of view now since the discussion is over with......but i firmly and strongl agree with everything slease said......im an ultra, extreme, left wing liberal......i can only do bad.

[quote974eaad4ab="slease"]

And liberals are here to make sure the conservatives don't lock all the minorities in jail and declare ourselves a theocracy

We all have our purposes.
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Here here.

[quote974eaad4ab="clearestchannel40"]

All you Pro-Choice motherfuckers can just go to hell too, a baby is a life, no matter what. Fuck the trimesters, from conception to birth, it is a human, accept that.
[/quote974eaad4ab]

I love how the majority of pro-lifers are guys. I GUARANTEE that if MEN had the ability to become pregnant there would be absolutely NO DEBATE on whether it was legal or not. Gotta keep 'em barefoot and pregnant, right CC40? I had a lot more written but Slease's comment got me to bite my tongue a bit. He's done a good enough job of stating my opinion, anyway. Remember, this is coming from another brainwashed, America-hating, baby-killing, terrorism-supporting, tree-hugging, atheist leftist who doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground. Watch out.

P.S. Can anyone find out how much of his tirade was directly taken from Anne Coulter and Michael Savage books? I'd like a tally.

[quotec2c541fecf="nicd.01"][quotec2c541fecf="slease"]

And liberals are here to make sure the conservatives don't lock all the minorities in jail and declare ourselves a theocracy

We all have our purposes.
[/quotec2c541fecf]
Here here.

[quotec2c541fecf="clearestchannel40"]

All you Pro-Choice motherfuckers can just go to hell too, a baby is a life, no matter what. Fuck the trimesters, from conception to birth, it is a human, accept that.
[/quotec2c541fecf]

I love how the majority of pro-lifers are guys. I GUARANTEE that if MEN had the ability to become pregnant there would be absolutely NO DEBATE on whether it was legal or not. Gotta keep 'em barefoot and pregnant, right CC40? I had a lot more written but Slease's comment got me to bite my tongue a bit. He's done a good enough job of stating my opinion, anyway. Remember, this is coming from another brainwashed, America-hating, baby-killing, terrorism-supporting, tree-hugging, atheist leftist who doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground. Watch out.[/quotec2c541fecf]


ooo that was good.....i was gonna post something like this but didnt wanna bring it all back up again......

the whole osama bin laden thing is a fraud, just like a fuel shortage is a fraud, there is no way in the world we can't find one cave dweller in this world. the truth is, he's a CIA agent working for the U.S Goverment to pose as enemy of the state who will never be caught so that the american people will continue to stay scared while the gov't takes one freedom away after another gradually...all in the name of Security===FRAUD if u don't believe me either check out prisonplanet.tv or infowars.com

wow......i have to say i also agree with what bluto says too......heres another site

http//whatreallyhappened.com/quickindex/

you can choose to either believe, or disbelieve.

i choose to believe.