Uh-Oh (Scammer)

CC40 may be back.

Jesus_LizaRD has put up bidding so he can do almost any site. He greened for me on MiniCool.4nocash and asked to be paid through the Paypal e-mail.

email==crackkills187@gmail.comcrackkills187@gmail.com=crackkills187@gmail.comcrackkills187@gmail.com/email


I paid him $19. The name with that account is "John Nathan", same as the John Nathan who scammed a lot of freeipodguide users.

Keep an eye out. Not calling him a scammer as of now, but...

good eye i will look into that

is there an IP check possible?

[quote919eb6aacc="dudeextrem2000"]is there an IP check possible?[/quote919eb6aacc]

He uses proxies which give him a new IP that he can sign up under. So none of his IPs will be the same.

darn lol ok

99% sure its him. I knew that guy was someone, but couldn't pinpoint who. The IP is from new jersey, I knew that CC40 was moving, so that's probably the case.

Gosh...I need my money back. He probablly took that $19 I gave him and the money he just got to pay off people.

He owes me $29 now.


Is there anyway I can contact CC40? He's not on AIM now.

[quote614c827cb8="stackmjwiz"]Gosh...I need my money back. He probablly took that $19 I gave him and the money he just got to pay off people.

He owes me $29 now.[/quote614c827cb8]
Why'd you pay first... ?

I didn't green first. I had a higher TR and he had none so I paid him right after he greened. I'm gonna beat myself for not being more careful.

i will be speaking to gratis about him again

So, what's the deal here? Are you advising us not to trade with him? And is he going to get banned?

He is banned

FYI, I know he's scammed people on the following networks so far

Gratis
OC
Logitehch4Free (just greened for me, I'm not paying)
Gustonetwork (Wanted just $10 for Ipod.gustonetwork, was suspicious but still paid)

I think someone might want to shut down this thread

http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=16988

So are all the trades he did going to go red?

I can't believe this guy has the balls to say this

[quote3f9901481b]Also, please don't scam me. I look up all your names and find and find out all the baggage associated with you. I am really serious about this. Thank you.[/quote3f9901481b]

GRRRRRRR

Meh, I should just go with first instincts for banning. I knew he was someone... you can just tell when guys come in and know a lot .. argh.

[quotefcf252ae29]Meh, I should just go with first instincts for banning. I knew he was someone... you can just tell when guys come in and know a lot .. argh.[/quotefcf252ae29]

Don't take it hard on yourself. He's just a slick SOB.

Will we ever see the end of CC40?

Gratis really should take legal action against this kid...he's gone above and beyond as far as cheating...this is basically theft. Just a twisted form of it so it doesn't appear as direct, but in actuality he's just taking money right out of your pockets.

I sincerely hope Jake can convince Gratis representatives to take the appropriate actions against this kid because I see a future bank robber in him...

[quotedd4e220086="sweeedfish"]Meh, I should just go with first instincts for banning. I knew he was someone... you can just tell when guys come in and know a lot .. argh.[/quotedd4e220086]


I got an IM early this morning warning me that he was up to something...I figured because all the "religious" usernames are just banned users coming back.

perhaps he was raising this money to pay back people he scammed
in the past. Since he paid me all of a sudden thats what im gonna assume

I had a weird feeling about him when he started posting here. Something about him just didn't feel right. The bad traders[=http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?p=145854&highlight=#145854url]bad traders thread he also started was kind of odd. Scamming bitch.

Yeah...robbing a bank to pay off your gambling debts...this kid is as shady as they come. I say send the 5-0 over to his house and straighten his little punk ass out.

I'm actually almost certain he was raising money to pay back the people he owed and then he would keep the profits. Check out these PMs he sent me.


Oh man! I just went green on two sites. To believe I spent $20 today and I am already getting back $37. This free stuff is unbelievable. From $20 I will have $116 in one week if all goes green.

I am addicted!


amazing. I came up with a plan.

With the $140 I should make by next weekend.

Invest in $20 a ref for minicool.4nocash.com and get $300 paypal

Use $100 and do $20 a ref for a site that offer $250 paypal for 5 refs.

Then I got $450 from $19. Smile

[quotec927912019="FreeOffersNow"][quotec927912019="sweeedfish"]Meh, I should just go with first instincts for banning. I knew he was someone... you can just tell when guys come in and know a lot .. argh.[/quotec927912019]


I got an IM early this morning warning me that he was up to something...I figured because all the "religious" usernames are just banned users coming back.[/quotec927912019]

it should have been obvious, at least it was to me... Whenever a new guy comes and seems to know everything about this place, its most likely a banned guy. His "cousin" was like this, and this new guy was like this. I was the first guy to call this. It is especially obvious in posts like this

[quotec927912019] Check out this awesome plan ---

1. Make a trade with somebody, go first or they go first adhering to the forum rules.guy
2. Go green/Pay them
3. They go green/Pay you
4. Nominate each other for ...[/quotec927912019]
[quotec927912019]Hm, I think he could have made his $500 much easier doing the RIGHT thing and still got free stuff.

I have done only phreeipods.com for a 20GB Apple iPod. (Not trading, friends!)

It just shocks ...[/quotec927912019]
This one should have given it away
[quotec927912019]I live in the heart of hardcore music Matt8789.

Freehold, New Jersey.

We got it all. Name any hardcore band, they came from Jersey.

Unfortunately, clearerchannel40 came from Jersey too. He a ...[/quotec927912019]
He thought he was gonna be smart and pretend to be new at this thing
[quotec927912019]What is the best webpage to get an iPod from?


I know freeipods.com has high traffic and is hard to get referrals for.[/quotec927912019] and then in other posts, he seems to be experienced
[quotec927912019]psp.gustonetwork.com was the only site I ever did. I did it through my father and he had friends from work do it. I paid $6, so I am not too upset, but I guess its the principle of the thing.[/quotec927912019]
Also, of course there were the typical list type posts
[quotec927912019]An idea!

Below the avatar can go a saying just like the post count makes a saying above the avatar.

This one is based on your trade record

10 = Got Ipod?
20 = GetFreeLives.Com Refs?
30 = T ...
____
Thank you slease. I will probably take you up on that idea.

Also, can I have a brief synopsis of

freeipodfrenzy.com
mp3players4free.com

They seem legit?
[/quotec927912019]
So while cc40 tried to cover his tracks, I am concluding that he is just a huge dumbass.

P.s. aren't I a great detective?

p.p.s. I don't know why I took the time to write about this dumbfuck, I guess I must be really desperate to do anything but my real work.

Great.

He PM'd me about my GetiPod4Free thread and went green on my account pretty fast. I paid him the $17 last night...I wonder if there is any way to dispute the payment through PayPal? I guess I should assume that his green will go red?

-thespytfire

Dam freedesktoppc, that "investigative work" just made me feel worse lol

[quote8a231c4ca6]I wonder if there is any way to dispute the payment through PayPal?[/quote8a231c4ca6]

Yea, can anyone answer this?

[quote459a5878b8="stackmjwiz"]Dam freedesktoppc, that "investigative work" just made me feel worse lol[/quote459a5878b8]

whys that? you guys gotta pay more attention. The guy was acting like a dumbass his whole time here, like he had something to hide. IPs mean nothing. If he was contributing nothing, then jus ban him.

edit not that I care, but just wondering why people give me bad karma for typing that long thingy up. ?
And yes, I know that I am gonna get more bad karma now for writing this.

[quote4f05d2e400="freedesktoppc"][quote4f05d2e400="stackmjwiz"]Dam freedesktoppc, that "investigative work" just made me feel worse lol[/quote4f05d2e400]

whys that? you guys gotta pay more attention. The guy was acting like a dumbass his whole time here, like he had something to hide. IPs mean nothing. If he was contributing nothing, then jus ban him.[/quote4f05d2e400]

Yeah, he was laying the whole "new guy" thing pretty thick. How about we ban his name and CC40 from ever being typed again, like what was done with gearlive? He deserves it much more than anyone else.

I know you can file a Buyer Claim with PayPal, but I'm not sure what to tell them about this. Since no physical transfer of goods was going to take place, I'm not sure if they will do anything. Anyone have any ideas?

[quote2568abb76b="freedesktoppc"]

edit not that I care, but just wondering why people give me bad karma for typing that long thingy up. ?
And yes, I know that I am gonna get more bad karma now for writing this.[/quote2568abb76b]

I wonder the same thing about why people give it to me...better to just ignore it...there's a lot of people in here who haven't quite let their balls descend yet...still hanging on to feeling like bigshots behind their computers. roll

twat!

God damn. I just knew something was up. How he wanted everyone to send him his link with the bid and then hed decide if he was goign to do the offer. Then the whole crap about going after people with high TR's. I now know why he didnt respond to me at all. I figure if he talked to me I would catch him on some bs and would call him out. Just glad someone got some evidence on this dude. Jus hoping hes not using thelinks to post to gratis saying we were spamming or some bs.

yeah, well he has my link...and he did reply to all my PM's i think.....oh well....maybe we could give our links to jake, and if anyone reports them or something like that then they will know where its from.....just an idea.

why not start a blacklist of referral ids ... post a sticky up and post the referral ids of all scammers ...

[quote3d0e1d3763="FreeOffersNow"][quote3d0e1d3763="sweeedfish"]Meh, I should just go with first instincts for banning. I knew he was someone... you can just tell when guys come in and know a lot .. argh.[/quote3d0e1d3763]


I got an IM early this morning warning me that he was up to something...I figured because all the "religious" usernames are just banned users coming back.[/quote3d0e1d3763]

FreeOffersNow - yep, I sent you that IM ) Got this feeling after taking all those bids for all the offers, and then suddenly "I'm going on a vacation".
On top of that, I got a PM earlier, that he wanted to do free360xbox for me, although it was clearly written in his thread, that he was doing it for someone else.

Thanks for taking action so quickly )

yeah as soon as i saw that "going on vacation thing" it was....well why did you say this at the start.

What's interesting is that many were already flaming him in that "idea" post before they even know who it was...

yes yes yes!! my intuition always stops me from doing a trade with him. I wanted to try and beat someone's offer for wifi.4nocash but I realized he had so many damn sites listed that it just wasn't normal. so I stayed away.

But I must admit, when they accused him of being CC40 in that idea thread I didn't think it was him. But looking back, those were the exact types of posts he use to make. He was trying to hard to be a newbie, newbs barely even make new posts they just reply.

He came back again!? Is he banned or can he still get PMs?

[quotec368842e82="prolific"]why not start a blacklist of referral ids ... post a sticky up and post the referral ids of all scammers ...[/quotec368842e82]

I've thought of that before. Just post the ref ids in a stickie but keep out the site they are used for. If someone is going to do an offer they can check to see if they should look into the person further. That would require a lot of work and would be useless if the person used a different account but it's worth a thought.

yeah agreed....there has to be another way to keep track of them or another defense against them.

He greened for me on freeipodshuffle and I was about to send him the payment but then I decided to go to the forum and I read this. Thanks everybody for the investigation.

[quote58a372502a="x323smostwantedx"]He greened for me on freeipodshuffle and I was about to send him the payment but then I decided to go to the forum and I read this. Thanks everybody for the investigation.[/quote58a372502a]

This is going to be unpopular When you place your order if it goes through then you should pay the money you owe him (yes I think if a scammer does a green for you then you still owe him) to one of his victims... It could be placed in a pot regulated by a mod who will then dish it out to those were scammed.

DL just did a ref for me and I plan on counting that torward one of the many cc40 refs that were rejected.

Otherwise report his new sign on to Gratis.

Otherwise you will be just like him.

luckily nothing to do untill it clears, and then it is personal choice.

[quotea395d67d28]He greened for me on freeipodshuffle and I was about to send him the payment but then I decided to go to the forum and I read this. Thanks everybody for the investigation.[/quotea395d67d28]

Hey, just to let y'all know, I'm taking small love offerings via Paypal wink

[quotee380fa9410="Peksim"][quotee380fa9410="x323smostwantedx"]He greened for me on freeipodshuffle and I was about to send him the payment but then I decided to go to the forum and I read this. Thanks everybody for the investigation.[/quotee380fa9410]

This is going to be unpopular When you place your order if it goes through then you should pay the money you owe him (yes I think if a scammer does a green for you then you still owe him) to one of his victims... It could be placed in a pot regulated by a mod who will then dish it out to those were scammed.

DL just did a ref for me and I plan on counting that torward one of the many cc40 refs that were rejected.

Otherwise report his new sign on to Gratis.

Otherwise you will be just like him.

luckily nothing to do untill it clears, and then it is personal choice.[/quotee380fa9410]

Wouldn't people then just pretend to have been scammed? There would be a whole new type of scammer on the board. If something like this were to be done, it would be very complicated to manage.

[quote4150601e40="FreeOffersNow"][quote4150601e40="sweeedfish"]Meh, I should just go with first instincts for banning. I knew he was someone... you can just tell when guys come in and know a lot .. argh.[/quote4150601e40]


I got an IM early this morning warning me that he was up to something...I figured because all the "religious" usernames are just banned users coming back.[/quote4150601e40]

?

[quoted7f48f7492="nicd.01"][quoted7f48f7492="Peksim"]This is going to be unpopular When you place your order if it goes through then you should pay the money you owe him (yes I think if a scammer does a green for you then you still owe him) to one of his victims... It could be placed in a pot regulated by a mod who will then dish it out to those were scammed.

DL just did a ref for me and I plan on counting that torward one of the many cc40 refs that were rejected.

Otherwise report his new sign on to Gratis.

Otherwise you will be just like him.

luckily nothing to do untill it clears, and then it is personal choice.[/quoted7f48f7492]

Wouldn't people then just pretend to have been scammed? There would be a whole new type of scammer on the board. If something like this were to be done, it would be very complicated to manage.[/quoted7f48f7492]

Yes, there is a flaw....

how does he do that? i mean don't he need a new CC#?

Hasek.

I like the idea of having a list of the ref #'s for known scammers. That way if someones new or suspicious you caould check there link against known #'s
We wouldnt have to have the numbers linked it could be
like(these are fake numbers)

Scammer Ref Number list

FreeMiniMacs
18346
54359

FreeiPods
12948

It would be fairly easy to maintain and we could only add numbers that have multiple confirmations so that we don't accidently add a non scammer or someone trying to get out of a trade by claiming to be scammed etc.
Also if we kept them in numerical order it would be easy to check

[quote1718de3ac5="Peksim"][quote1718de3ac5="nicd.01"][quote1718de3ac5="Peksim"]This is going to be unpopular When you place your order if it goes through then you should pay the money you owe him (yes I think if a scammer does a green for you then you still owe him) to one of his victims... It could be placed in a pot regulated by a mod who will then dish it out to those were scammed.

DL just did a ref for me and I plan on counting that torward one of the many cc40 refs that were rejected.

Otherwise report his new sign on to Gratis.

Otherwise you will be just like him.

luckily nothing to do untill it clears, and then it is personal choice.[/quote1718de3ac5]

Wouldn't people then just pretend to have been scammed? There would be a whole new type of scammer on the board. If something like this were to be done, it would be very complicated to manage.[/quote1718de3ac5]

Yes, there is a flaw....[/quote1718de3ac5]

But not ones that couldn't be dealt with. A solution would be only listing the ref numbers of the users that have positively proven to be scammers. By only listing confirmed scammers, false listings would be reduced.

Edit That's pretty much what popojijo said but it's a good idea!

yeah that was a good idea nicd.01

i think mods are getting tired of polls with suggestions about the site, but maybe if someone put up a poll to see what other people thought......i really dont see why anyone would object to it though.

just make it a sticky at the top of the scammers forum.....the ref list i mean.

[quote061c0ddb3f="Batman"]Will we ever see the end of CC40?[/quote061c0ddb3f]

nope....

[quote6ecc46e03b="PoPoJiJo"]I like the idea of having a list of the ref #'s for known scammers. That way if someones new or suspicious you caould check there link against known #'s
We wouldnt have to have the numbers linked it could be
like(these are fake numbers)

Scammer Ref Number list

FreeMiniMacs
18346
54359

FreeiPods
12948

It would be fairly easy to maintain and we could only add numbers that have multiple confirmations so that we don't accidently add a non scammer or someone trying to get out of a trade by claiming to be scammed etc.
Also if we kept them in numerical order it would be easy to check[/quote6ecc46e03b]

This is a great idea.

[quote58ebaac8b5="slease"][quote58ebaac8b5="PoPoJiJo"]I like the idea of having a list of the ref #'s for known scammers. That way if someones new or suspicious you caould check there link against known #'s
We wouldnt have to have the numbers linked it could be
like(these are fake numbers)

Scammer Ref Number list

FreeMiniMacs
18346
54359

FreeiPods
12948

It would be fairly easy to maintain and we could only add numbers that have multiple confirmations so that we don't accidently add a non scammer or someone trying to get out of a trade by claiming to be scammed etc.
Also if we kept them in numerical order it would be easy to check[/quote58ebaac8b5]

This is a great idea.[/quote58ebaac8b5]

Anyone care to start a poll?

[quote80335bb7db="nicd.01"][quote80335bb7db="slease"][quote80335bb7db="PoPoJiJo"]I like the idea of having a list of the ref #'s for known scammers. That way if someones new or suspicious you caould check there link against known #'s
We wouldnt have to have the numbers linked it could be
like(these are fake numbers)

Scammer Ref Number list

FreeMiniMacs
18346
54359

FreeiPods
12948

It would be fairly easy to maintain and we could only add numbers that have multiple confirmations so that we don't accidently add a non scammer or someone trying to get out of a trade by claiming to be scammed etc.
Also if we kept them in numerical order it would be easy to check[/quote80335bb7db]

This is a great idea.[/quote80335bb7db]

Anyone care to start a poll?[/quote80335bb7db]

Just pm the idea to Admin, let him start a poll if he wants.

im in favor of this idea D
people like cart will be impossible to keep out without a security measure like this.

[quotef47f992220="slease"][quotef47f992220="nicd.01"][quotef47f992220="slease"][quotef47f992220="PoPoJiJo"]I like the idea of having a list of the ref #'s for known scammers. That way if someones new or suspicious you caould check there link against known #'s
We wouldnt have to have the numbers linked it could be
like(these are fake numbers)

Scammer Ref Number list

FreeMiniMacs
18346
54359

FreeiPods
12948

It would be fairly easy to maintain and we could only add numbers that have multiple confirmations so that we don't accidently add a non scammer or someone trying to get out of a trade by claiming to be scammed etc.
Also if we kept them in numerical order it would be easy to check[/quotef47f992220]

This is a great idea.[/quotef47f992220]

Anyone care to start a poll?[/quotef47f992220]

Just pm the idea to Admin, let him start a poll if he wants.[/quotef47f992220]

Done. -)

Looks good. Start compiling a post and I'll sticky it.

Sweet!

That is a very good idea. ) Then once you have the list people can use the Control+F function to search the referral number.

i have all of cartrenroys ref numbers.....compile them here or in a seperate thread?

or send them to someone?

If you want you guys can start posting them in the scammer site list and I'll compile them and order them and then someone can post it

ok i just made a thread in the scammers section......

PISS!!

sorry popo, i just saw that you said in the scammer site thread, and not in the scammers section.....my bad......you want me to just edit it and put it in your thread?

nope thats even better

Just so you all know, I locked the other topic for two reasons. First, there need be only one topic for the compilation of a "Scammers' Referral Links" list. Second, cartrenroy requested I take action via AIM, and because he never actually [ibaee4a2d72]scammed[/ibaee4a2d72] anyone, I've honored his request.

[quote1ff4c1ca2b="FreeOffersNow"]Just so you all know, I locked the other topic for two reasons. First, there need be only one topic for the compilation of a "Scammers' Referral Links" list. Second, cartrenroy requested I take action via AIM, and because he never actually [i1ff4c1ca2b]scammed[/i1ff4c1ca2b] anyone, I've honored his request.[/quote1ff4c1ca2b]
Sorry bro but I'm gonna have to disagree on both accounts
cartrenroy actually scammed a bunch of people who have posted so in the scammer thread. Also the point of the thread is to prevent people who are banned from coming back and doing trades he was banned and thus deserves to have his ref links posted so that he cant come back and trade which he has already tried to do (how would he know if he wasnt) I also have seen him banned a second time by sweed possibly a third (the spelling looked like him)
secondly that was the first and only thread about it, if you are reffering to the thread at the top of this forum that is about sites that are scams not actually scammers and is not related to this subject

[quote87ef6662eb="PoPoJiJo"][quote87ef6662eb="FreeOffersNow"]Just so you all know, I locked the other topic for two reasons. First, there need be only one topic for the compilation of a "Scammers' Referral Links" list. Second, cartrenroy requested I take action via AIM, and because he never actually [i87ef6662eb]scammed[/i87ef6662eb] anyone, I've honored his request.[/quote87ef6662eb]
Sorry bro but I'm gonna have to disagree on both accounts
cartrenroy actually scammed a bunch of people who have posted so in the scammer thread. Also the point of the thread is to prevent people who are banned from coming back and doing trades he was banned and thus deserves to have his ref links posted so that he cant come back and trade which he has already tried to do (how would he know if he wasnt) I also have seen him banned a second time by sweed possibly a third (the spelling looked like him)
secondly that was the first and only thread about it, if you are reffering to the thread at the top of this forum that is about sites that are scams not actually scammers and is not related to this subject[/quote87ef6662eb]

I agree with popo.

whether carts ref numbers are put up or not, this list should be a definite. there is no good reason not to have this list other than the time it may take to update or maintain.

but i am sure there are people who would be willing to do this.

Here are some links to threads dealing with cart(just two I found on the first page there are many more)
http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=17033
http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=16801

I would also like to add that the admin approved this idea
[quote85d9f3cf64="Admin"]Looks good. Start compiling a post and I'll sticky it.[/quote85d9f3cf64]

I have not spoke to Cart since his bant, but I don't think that Cart scammed anyone... He was just slow at taking action....

Each green he has given me wes just approved so they were unique. Cart did say he would work on the red that the other user got before he got banned.

Cartrenroy, though dodgey, has not scammed anyone... before he was banned. Untill his banned he always responded saying that he will take care of it. He was just really SSSSSLLLLLLOOOOOOOWWWWW!

Edit I am in no way defending his actions... He had enough complaints to get banned a long time ago.

[quote3a6bc0ddc4="Peksim"]I have not spoke to Cart since his bant, but I don't think that Cart scammed anyone... He was just slow at taking action....

Each green he has given me wes just approved so they were unique. Cart did say he would work on the red that the other user got before he got banned.

Cartrenroy, though dodgey, has not scammed anyone... before he was banned. Untill his banned he always responded saying that he will take care of it. He was just really SSSSSLLLLLLOOOOOOOWWWWW!

Edit I am in no way defending his actions... He had enough complaints to get banned a long time ago.[/quote3a6bc0ddc4]
Those are good points but regardless he was bant and shouldnt be trading on this forum preventing people who are bant from coming back and trading is what this list is designed to do...

[quoteeb8ea3c584="PoPoJiJo"][quoteeb8ea3c584="FreeOffersNow"]Just so you all know, I locked the other topic for two reasons. First, there need be only one topic for the compilation of a "Scammers' Referral Links" list. Second, cartrenroy requested I take action via AIM, and because he never actually [ieb8ea3c584]scammed[/ieb8ea3c584] anyone, I've honored his request.[/quoteeb8ea3c584]
Sorry bro but I'm gonna have to disagree on both accounts
cartrenroy actually scammed a bunch of people who have posted so in the scammer thread. Also the point of the thread is to prevent people who are banned from coming back and doing trades he was banned and thus deserves to have his ref links posted so that he cant come back and trade which he has already tried to do (how would he know if he wasnt) I also have seen him banned a second time by sweed possibly a third (the spelling looked like him)
secondly that was the first and only thread about it, if you are reffering to the thread at the top of this forum that is about sites that are scams not actually scammers and is not related to this subject[/quoteeb8ea3c584]


I'm not sure you understood the first point I was trying to make. What I meant to say is that there need only be one definitive, comprehensive list of scammers' referral links. I stand firmly on my decision that cartrenroy's referral links will not be posted. While he wasn't the most professional of traders, he did not scam (in the sense that he did not intentionally enter into trades, while never intending to complete them). This decision was not made to allow him to continue trading here, but to ensure that his referral links aren't misused by angry "victims" of his antics.

[quotefb5e48f01b="lakersin2025"]Fuck, this guy went red on my macmini4free. God damnit![/quotefb5e48f01b]

[quote05a389ddcc="FreeOffersNow"][quote05a389ddcc="PoPoJiJo"][quote05a389ddcc="FreeOffersNow"]Just so you all know, I locked the other topic for two reasons. First, there need be only one topic for the compilation of a "Scammers' Referral Links" list. Second, cartrenroy requested I take action via AIM, and because he never actually [i05a389ddcc]scammed[/i05a389ddcc] anyone, I've honored his request.[/quote05a389ddcc]
Sorry bro but I'm gonna have to disagree on both accounts
cartrenroy actually scammed a bunch of people who have posted so in the scammer thread. Also the point of the thread is to prevent people who are banned from coming back and doing trades he was banned and thus deserves to have his ref links posted so that he cant come back and trade which he has already tried to do (how would he know if he wasnt) I also have seen him banned a second time by sweed possibly a third (the spelling looked like him)
secondly that was the first and only thread about it, if you are reffering to the thread at the top of this forum that is about sites that are scams not actually scammers and is not related to this subject[/quote05a389ddcc]


I'm not sure you understood the first point I was trying to make. What I meant to say is that there need only be one definitive, comprehensive list of scammers' referral links. I stand firmly on my decision that cartrenroy's referral links will not be posted. While he wasn't the most professional of traders, he did not scam (in the sense that he did not intentionally enter into trades, while never intending to complete them). This decision was not made to allow him to continue trading here, but to ensure that his referral links aren't misused by angry "victims" of his antics.[/quote05a389ddcc]
Okay I still think I'm confused what list is there?

There isn't one yet, we are supposed to be compiling a list...what I'm saying is keep it to one discussion (i.e. I don't want to see 30 different topics dedicated to creating this list). Regarding lakersin2025's post, if I hear more of the same I will reconsider my "diagnosis" of cartrenroy.

Aight well I am going to create a thread in the scammer section for this then

yeah, either get a mod to unlock the one i made and use that, or just delete mine then.

maybe the ability to search for banned users would be a good idea, or if you are looking through the users list, an option to only look at banned user or something.

it would make trying to find scammers easier i think.

here are some threads that deal with cart
http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=13626
http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=13834
http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=16801
http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=17033

[quotee77e479c83="theysayjump"]yeah, either get a mod to unlock the one i made and use that, or just delete mine then.[/quotee77e479c83]
Sorry I went ahead and jsut made a new one I figured with all the mess that went on in yours ? this would be easier

yeah thats fine....if you read this mods, just delete my thread in the scammers section.

Looks good so far. I'd post a few links but I've lost all of the PMs containing them. It would also probably be a good idea to post the list as a stickie in the trading thread because I'm sure a lot of newbies don't even bother to check the scammer section. Hopefully more people will post links as the list is noticed.

hM JESUS FUCKER... thank god i didn't trade with him...



From Pete
To Jesus_LizaRD
Posted Sun Jun 19, 2005 834 pm
Subject HELLO
Hello,
i'm sorry but i will pass, off.
i don't want to trade right now.
think i prefer to trade with some one who has 3TR and up.

i don't have nothing against you, but if you want wait a week or 10 days, once i see you have some tr and your green approved as well
thanks,
please take out my trades from a list
noteboks and logitech as well.
thanks again
pete

you got any of his links Pete?

He was only accepting paypal for doing sites. I doubt anyone has any of his links.

[quote5bcb4a9ebd="Jesus_LizaRD"]i heard they dont credit often. I don't want to throw away money. are you sure it will go through? can i have an offer amount back guarantee? i am sorry, i am just so scared with these sites![/quote5bcb4a9ebd]

LOL

add these...i got scammed by this guy "lykenew" from congablast

i have two of his ref links

"can't have link..blah blah"

we were in a trade...i went first and went green then never heard from him again.

well hes not a member on these forums and for all we know they could be your ref links and your looking for a way to get around the "no posting ref links" rule.

you should remove them if you dont wanna get banned.