Anyone familiar with roullette?

So I've been gambling for quite some time now.
And just this year got into a fun little game called Roullette.

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I'm sure you are all familiar with the concepts behind this game...
And if not, maybe you can still chime in and let me know what you think..

There are a few different types of bets you can make. Here's a quick rundown

[b00fd2a3cb5]The Inside[/b00fd2a3cb5]
The only thing on the inside is numbers. But there are a few different types of bets possible on the inside.
Single Number 35 to 1 Biggest payoff in the game. Put $100 on red 23 and it hits, they give you $3,500.
JointNumber 17 to 1 This is when you put a chip on the line between two connected numbers.
CornerNumbers 8 to 1 Placing a chip on the corner of four adjoining numbers.

There are a few more, but to keep it simple we'll stick with those three most popular bets.

[b00fd2a3cb5]The Outside [/b00fd2a3cb5]
The next are the best odds [b00fd2a3cb5]of any game in the ENTIRE CASINO[/b00fd2a3cb5]
Black or Red 1 to 1
Even or Odd 1 to 1
1-18 or 19-36 1 to 1


Columns 1 to 2
1-12 or 13-24 or 25-36 1 to 2



Okay. Here's why I just went ahead and typed this seemingly pointless thread up.
Normally, when I play Roullette, I stick to the 1 to 2 bets.
Colums, specifically.

I pick two of the three columns, and place bets on each. Giving me just about a 66% chance of winning....right?

Thats the way it looks to me. Those are some freakin amazing odds if its true.

Obviously, this isnt the case...Otherwise everybody with an iq of 90 or above would be betting the same thing.

So, roulette junkies and math whiz's expplain the flaw in my logic for me...

I think you have a 66% chance of winning $10 (win $20 plus lose the other $10 bet) and a 33% chance of losing $20 (lose both). So does that take you back to 50-50 odds? I'm pretty sure I did my math wrong D

It looks to me like you're betting on two columns (so let's say 2 times $100 = $200) for a 66% chance to win $200. You're giving your money away to the casino.

Roughly calculated by probabiity
33% chance you lose both (lose $200)
66% chance you win (end up with $100 placed on winning square plus $200 winning)

.33x-$200 + .66x$300 = -$66 + $200 = $133 if you try this, while doing nothing leaves you $200 ($66 more).

Something like that I think...

And another thing, if you're doing those casino sites for bonus money, wouldn't it make more sense to just play roulette with 50-50 odds? Blackjack is more like 49% chances of winning right? Playing roulette would also be a lot easier, no charts to follow )

yeah blackjack's odds if you follow the charts exactly are 49% of the time you will in
51% of the time house wins

but people dont like just playing for luck, which is what roulette is. With blackjack at least you can feel like you are a part of why you are winning by making decisions.

Meh, I follow the chart and don't even win 49%, so I'll try roulette at my next casino.

[quote6d21b9012b="idrinklisterine"]And another thing, if you're doing those casino sites for bonus money, wouldn't it make more sense to just play roulette with 50-50 odds? Blackjack is more like 49% chances of winning right? Playing roulette would also be a lot easier, no charts to follow )[/quote6d21b9012b]

Im pretty sure most of the casinos wont let you play roulette to meet your wage requirement..even if you could, you wouldnt want to. the house egde in roulette is too high.. want something low? jacks or better video poker.

I think there are casinos that allow it. From what I've seen, casinos that don't let you play roulette for wage requirements also don't let you play blackjack or poker either. Basically, you can't play low risk games D

I know there are some.. but I also recall reading some that dont allow roulette, but do allow blackjack. bottom line, if you're going to choose between the two and you want the best odds.. play blackjack with the basic strategy.

All casinos in vegas that I visited allowed ANY bets so long as it was $5 or more.

I saw people playing $5 a number for 30 numbers. Those are some real good odds, but still you have to risk a lot to get a little...

Uhm, thread is long and lots of numbers, but I'm gonna throw in this fact that I picked up somewhere, Roulette has some of the worst odds in a casino. Something about 0 and 00 throws the odds off. There are some other games that just aren't worth betting money on, I think one of them might have been carribean stud poker.

yeah, carribean stud sucks.. worst of all the games is keno I believe.. something like a 30% house edge, lol.

[quote27f7867024="liquidskin"]yeah, carribean stud sucks.. worst of all the games is keno I believe.. something like a 30% house edge, lol.[/quote27f7867024]

hahah keno is bullshit

but people still play it! must be that idea of betting a small amount and turning it into a nice payday.

Hmm, I was researching this a little bit and I found this site about getting roulette odds in your favor.

http//krigman.casinocitytimes.com/articles/5365.html

Any comments?

It talks about a few of the methods I mentioned before.
Seems like all "DUH" stuff to me, and yet I continually see people throw $2000 away in minutes...

it's all about the safety bet, putting the money on red and betting black numbers gives you a great chance of at least staying even, and you still have a good shot at winning a lot

[quotede2da3c006="tonydanza92"]it's all about the safety bet, putting the money on red and betting black numbers gives you a great chance of at least staying even, and you still have a good shot at winning a lot[/quotede2da3c006]

i cant agree with you on that... playing something that pays 11 and will hit 47.37% of the time doesnt seem all that smart to me.

hey i dont like roulette at all, that just give you good odds compared to other stuff

it hits that % of the time, but with bets on black you have a great % chance of winning

if you really like running the numbers run this

$12 bet on red.. 12x $1 bets on black numbers (pay 351)

im sorry, I just dont see how you consider 47.37% to be a "great chance of winning"

look at it in the long run.. say you make 1,000 bets on red.. ten dollars a pop.. you would have lost $540. im not saying thats definite, and of course not everyone is going to play 1000 times, but mathematically, the odds are not good. of course someone can come up to the table and put $1000 on a number and walk away with a nice piece of change, but that is pure luck and that can be achieved in any game.

Here's a strategy that I used which worked well for me (until i met 8 blacks in a row)

Just remember, you need a very large bankroll to make this profitable.

ROULETTE The impossible system
I'm haunted by a paradox in regards to this famous old game. Following this simple formula, in theory it is impossible to lose

Place one chip on a 50/50, black, for example. If you win, you get 1 chip profit, repeat until you lose. When you lose, put 2X your wager plus half (rounded up) on black again. Keep doing this until you win again then go back to 1 chip. So the sequence of bets if you lost six in a row (if six reds in a row came up) would be 1, 3, 9, 25, 60, 150. These numbers are rounded off as you can't usually mix up low and high chips, (so you can't have 69 for example). Alternately, to decrease the odds of using up all your bankroll, you can use the Martingale system which simply doubles up after every loss. A good sequence that I've been using recently is 1, 3, 6, 15, 35, 80, 170. In theory at least you can continue doing this forever and you would always be able to beat the house as there will never been an infinite sequence of reds.

Back in the real world, not many of us actually has an infinite bankroll to finance this endeavour. But if you have a fairly hefty one you can accumulate amazing amounts of money gambling that a long sequence of reds won't come up. Half the time you will be winning a dollar, the rest of the time you will be winning significantly more until you reach that improbable sequence and it all crumbles to nothing. However if you put all your winnings aside you should find that if/when this sequence occurs you will have earned enough in winnings to lessen the impact of this loss. The key of course is to quit before this happens so set a certain amount of games you want to play and make sure your bankroll will be more than adequate to cover any unlikely sequences. If you only play a few games you should make a nice little pot with little risk of ruin.

^ that's the method I use when making bets on red / black. When I was in Vegas if I saw a roulette table with a string of 5+ of one color, I'd go put $50-$100 on the opposite. If I lost, I'd double it, and kept going until I won.