Makes You Think
theysayjump
15-08-2005 19:58:04
if you have a spare 20 minutes, download and watch this video. its very much worth it!
it really makes you think
http//70.84.33.210/~infomedi/video/previews/170305martialpreview2.wmv
if anyone does watch it, post with what you think about it.
i found it in the ebaumsworld forums.
J4320
15-08-2005 20:01:21
It's downloading.... What's it about?
Collateral
15-08-2005 20:02:29
me too
J4320
15-08-2005 20:25:53
It's about 9-11 and how bombs were also set off to make the towers fall. And how another building was taken down by the government and the government just said the building fell from fire damage but that would be impossible.
Good movie. Thanks jump. D
bballp6699
15-08-2005 20:34:53
Oh god...
This dumb shit is all we need...
I didn't watch it, but I'm assuming it's more made up bull shit speculations like that stupid Fahrenheit movie.
Stroid
15-08-2005 20:38:53
im dl now to see this sounds like a bunch of bs though
Stroid
15-08-2005 20:45:11
i just watched like 10min of that and i think its retarded.... a bunch of bs if you ask me
sweeedfish
15-08-2005 20:47:18
i vote michael moore is gay and should die - random comment ...
tracemhunter
15-08-2005 20:52:54
i second that. i have no desire to hear about this crap anymore. dont even get me started on how the war is pointless.
nicd.01
15-08-2005 20:56:42
[quotefb502c4154="tracemhunter"]i second that. i have no desire to hear about this crap anymore. dont even get me started on how the war is pointless.[/quotefb502c4154]
Why the edit?
tracemhunter
15-08-2005 21:07:46
didnt want to get into the stuff that much.
J4320
15-08-2005 21:08:54
That movie does raise a good question. Why did they take down that other building that wasn't even gonna crash?
Stroid
15-08-2005 21:13:53
[quote8034bc63d1="J4320"]That movie does raise a good question. Why did they take down that other building that wasn't even gonna crash?[/quote8034bc63d1]
stability...eventually the foundation wouldnt last so just take it down and rebuild a sound foundation
nicd.01
15-08-2005 21:14:42
[quote8965f06892="tracemhunter"]didnt want to get into the stuff that much.[/quote8965f06892]
Totally understandable. I tend to avoid political debates for that exact reason.
J4320
15-08-2005 21:30:46
[quotea86c0c4906="Stroid"][quotea86c0c4906="J4320"]That movie does raise a good question. Why did they take down that other building that wasn't even gonna crash?[/quotea86c0c4906]
stability...eventually the foundation wouldnt last so just take it down and rebuild a sound foundation[/quotea86c0c4906]
Doubtful...
But the building had one little tiny fire in it and they take the entire building down. Strange if you ask me.
That kind of fire doesn't melt steel.
theysayjump
15-08-2005 21:38:10
well try not to make a judgement on something you dont fully watch, listen to or hear out. its called being judgemental and you wouldnt like people judging you without knowing you, so atleast watch the fuckin thing and then decide if its bullshit.
i wasnt trying to start up a political debate but it made me think, and if you watch the whole thing and have an open mind then it would make you think too.
its not someone liberal extremist views its firemen who were in the buildings, at the buildings or near the buildings on 9/11, its news people saying live on tv as it was happening, its people who owned parts of the complex being interviewed on tv.
im not saying you should agree, but just at least watch the whole thing before you dismiss it roll
here you go
http//content.amplovesyou.net/video/?file=poon13.wmv
Stroid
15-08-2005 21:41:14
im not trying to be judgemental but from what i watched it seemed like bs and i just dont feel like watching anymore of it and thats my choice i didnt say much about it from what i watched all i said was that it seemed like bs and i am entitled to my opinion im just kinda sick of this kinda of talk about how the US planned the 9-11 bombings i just dont believe that
ajrock2000
15-08-2005 21:44:36
[quote38c1d60a9b="theysayjump"]well try not to make a judgement on something you dont fully watch, listen to or hear out. its called being judgemental and you wouldnt like people judging you without knowing you, so atleast watch the fuckin thing and then decide if its bullshit.
i wasnt trying to start up a political debate but it made me think, and if you watch the whole thing and have an open mind then it would make you think too.
its not someone liberal extremist views its firemen who were in the buildings, at the buildings or near the buildings on 9/11, its news people saying live on tv as it was happening, its people who owned parts of the complex being interviewed on tv.
im not saying you should agree, but just at least watch the whole thing before you dismiss it roll
here you go
http//content.amplovesyou.net/video/?file=poon13.wmv[/quote38c1d60a9b]
Couldn't agree more. I hate people who have pre-established what they think is bs before even hearing it out and looking into it.
theysayjump
15-08-2005 21:45:58
no i know you were just commenting on what you saw, but you werent the only person who said it was bullshit or whatever.
im not saying the US planned the attacks, but i have an open enough mind to at least think its possible. the UK government couldve planned the London bombings.....wasnt it convenient that there were no world leaders or political leaders anywhere near London? yeah see?
its possible.....i just dont get why people take the media and the governments word for everything, without any question whatsoever.
for anyone who hasnt watched the video, watch it and then refute the points made in it.
ajrock2000
15-08-2005 21:46:56
[quote47816ff053="Stroid"]im not trying to be judgemental but from what i watched it seemed like bs and i just dont feel like watching anymore of it and thats my choice i didnt say much about it from what i watched all i said was that it seemed like bs and i am entitled to my opinion im just kinda sick of this kinda of talk about how the US planned the 9-11 bombings i just dont believe that[/quote47816ff053]
Don't want to believe it? Or dont believe it? lol
Stroid
15-08-2005 21:48:56
[quote8ad845d027="theysayjump"]no i know you were just commenting on what you saw, but you werent the only person who said it was bullshit or whatever.
im not saying the US planned the attacks, but i have an open enough mind to at least think its possible. the UK government couldve planned the London bombings.....wasnt it convenient that there were no world leaders or political leaders anywhere near London? yeah see?
its possible.....i just dont get why people take the media and the governments word for everything, without any question whatsoever.
for anyone who hasnt watched the video, watch it and then refute the points made in it.[/quote8ad845d027]
yeah i see what you are saying but i just dont feel like watching it tonight maybe its cause ive had about 4 martinies and i just dont feel like watching it ill check it out tommorow
theysayjump
15-08-2005 21:58:02
yeah im not saying you have to watch it, i just said if you have a spare 20 minutes.
it just irks me when people make judgements about things that they havent even given a full chance.
bballp6699
15-08-2005 22:04:38
I didn't watch it because I'm too lazy to download it, however, I don't want to watch it if it's just another attempt of twisting things to make it sound like something other then what it was. Over 3000 people died on that day and to say that part of it was planned by our own is just ridiculous.
theysayjump
15-08-2005 22:23:39
its not twisting shit....its showing you what the news crews were reporting, what the firemen on the scene were saying about it, telling you about building 7.
its not telling you what to think, its showing you what people who were there think/said/saw/reported etc.
i take it you think that Lee Harvey Oswald killed Kennedy then?
tracemhunter
15-08-2005 22:30:44
i sure hope not because the gov did in fact make that bullshit up. i think it was the mob... after all, his dad was a bootlegger and jfk's brother was trying to get rid of drugs and alcohol. i can imagine why the mob was mad.
CollidgeGraduit
16-08-2005 03:55:45
I think the heads of the military were behind JFK's assassination. The only group capable of pulling off such an elaborate crime AND sweeping it under the carpet like that is a government. I only hope that someone gives the true story up, on their death bed or something.
hehehhehe
16-08-2005 13:44:09
I started watching this video and when I saw infowars and Alex Jones, I just rolled my eyes and hit the close button. It would be easy to dismiss me and say I'm closed minded, but I have watched a lot of his "work" and similar work by others (so I am open minded to the point that I will go after this stuff myself).
Alex Jones is just trying to sell his videos. All you have to do is go to his site to realize that. I watched this thing called Inside Bohemian Grove (he tries to link Bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney to satanic rituals - or suggests a link), and it was so much crap that I couldn't believe anyone was still taking him seriously.
I think the most important thing to look for is motive. The two towers went down - what more can be gained by blowing up 7 WTC (I think that was the building) to blame it on terrorists? No one gives a shit about it. (For those of you that watched the whole thing, tell me what they say).
Same thing with JFK. As I get older, I try to take into account different possibilities that may explain what happened, farther away from conspiracy theories. However, I just don't understand why Ruby did what he did - it's clear he had ties with the mob and the Kennedys weren't the most liked by them.
There are a lot of bad things done by powerful people, but BS that comes from Alex Jones just helps to blur people's visions and makes it easier for people to dismiss otherwise real crimes as crazy conspiracy theories.
All that being said, his fear of the loss of more and more liberties in the US is real. The Patriot Act is any law enforcement's wet dream, and when anyone gets a lot of power, they use it.