Official: A4f was hacked Thread
	
		Celica
		29-08-2005 20:46:15
	 
	
	
	Just wondering if anyone knows? Please, no flaming between sites. Lets just all get along.	
	
 
	
		ajrock2000
		29-08-2005 20:50:02
	 
	
	
	Based on your post count.........you?	
	
 
	
		Godrockdj
		29-08-2005 20:52:55
	 
	
	
	I'm also curious as to the amount of "newbies" these past few hours. Sure I would expect a few A4F posters to come over here during the down time, but most of them already have an established account here.	
	
 
	
		Celica
		29-08-2005 20:53:27
	 
	
	
	LOL! i wish i could hack.	
	
 
	
		tracemhunter
		29-08-2005 20:53:56
	 
	
	
	to prove you are legit and did not do it celica, you must shove 28 porcupine wills in your nose.	
	
 
	
		Celica
		29-08-2005 20:55:07
	 
	
	
	thats disgusting... lol. Bad bad mental image. lol	
	
 
	
		theysayjump
		29-08-2005 20:59:14
	 
	
	
	[quote7231453f5e="tracemhunter"]to prove you are legit and did not do it celica, you must shove 28 porcupine wills in your nose.[/quote7231453f5e]
when'd it change to 28?
i remember when it used to be 11 and an apple.	
	
 
	
		tracemhunter
		29-08-2005 21:01:14
	 
	
	
	felt like taking it up a notch.	
	
 
	
		theysayjump
		29-08-2005 21:01:54
	 
	
	
	oh it was your call huh?
did you clear it with "the man"?	
	
 
	
		JOSHBOX
		29-08-2005 21:04:19
	 
	
	
	It was me.  Sorry A4F my bad.	
	
 
	
		Celica
		29-08-2005 21:05:44
	 
	
	
	-tisk- -tisk- -tisk- 
I knew it all a long. THe taliban hat gave it away.	
	
 
	
		theysayjump
		29-08-2005 21:05:56
	 
	
	
	[quote5a2c7700a7="JOSHBOX"]It was me.  Sorry A4F my bad.[/quote5a2c7700a7]
what have you been told JOSHBOX?	
	
 
	
		JOSHBOX
		29-08-2005 21:08:42
	 
	
	
	[quotee31f889a33="theysayjump"][quotee31f889a33="JOSHBOX"]It was me.  Sorry A4F my bad.[/quotee31f889a33]
what have you been told JOSHBOX?[/quotee31f889a33]
I know... Im sorry, please forgive me.	
	
 
	
		Celica
		29-08-2005 21:09:44
	 
	
	
	this was meant to be a sort of serious thread. lol. does anyone know twhite? he might have an idea.	
	
 
	
		halfbreed
		29-08-2005 21:11:09
	 
	
	
	Weird...you'd figure someone would hack a phpbb forum before an invision one. Phpbb is easier...but I guess our Admin is too leet and pwns all exploits D	
	
 
	
		Admin
		29-08-2005 21:20:30
	 
	
	
	1) you're right, I stay on top of patches to avoid exploits
2) this, and every other "hacking" that has ever happened in the freesite world has just been someone guessing an admin's password.  It's not hacking.  Its just admins not having secure enough passwords.	
	
 
	
		halfbreed
		29-08-2005 21:22:01
	 
	
	
	So is your password still jHYjf757894%$#(sgYJdngubkjkdYy748376f9fhsy&7i79^li&&fguuvUYTUIfbhfiaushutfuiKmue8ibigysuUohfhkf97&Bli(gb876f	
	
 
	
		JOSHBOX
		29-08-2005 21:23:35
	 
	
	
	omfg halfbreed thanks alot for telling everyone.	
	
 
	
		Celica
		29-08-2005 21:25:27
	 
	
	
	It's not the admin password on the forums. it must have been the ftp password.	
	
 
	
		halfbreed
		29-08-2005 21:26:58
	 
	
	
	Because that's better right? Lol seriously, if you have a guessable ftp your not smart. But in all seriousness if anyone on here knew, they wouldn't say.	
	
 
	
		Strike
		29-08-2005 21:27:33
	 
	
	
	Yay our Admin pwns!	
	
 
	
		EatChex89
		29-08-2005 21:30:54
	 
	
	
	Yea it was probably the FTP password  because the whole site is down.
Hopefully A4F makes backups and has a recent backup.	
	
 
	
		Celica
		29-08-2005 21:31:39
	 
	
	
	twhite should have a backup cache...	
	
 
	
		J4320
		29-08-2005 21:31:42
	 
	
	
	mmm... mam.. don't stop. don't stop what? ?!
lol	
	
 
	
		Stroid
		29-08-2005 21:33:11
	 
	
	
	if you know twhites real aim name send it to me via pm	
	
 
	
		EatChex89
		29-08-2005 21:33:55
	 
	
	
	[quote1eea76fcb2="Celica"]twhite should have a backup cache...[/quote1eea76fcb2]
does he run the site?	
	
 
	
		Celica
		29-08-2005 21:37:27
	 
	
	
	him and one other kid i think.	
	
 
	
		EatChex89
		29-08-2005 21:39:57
	 
	
	
	[quoteb7087d551d="Celica"]him and one other kid i think.[/quoteb7087d551d]
they're kids?	
	
 
	
		doylnea
		29-08-2005 21:40:01
	 
	
	
	Isn't this the second time this has happened?
You'd think after the first time, the admins would require everyone to use alphanumeric passwords.	
	
 
	
		EatChex89
		29-08-2005 21:44:10
	 
	
	
	[quotee3ea277675="doylnea"]Isn't this the second time this has happened?
You'd think after the first time, the admins would require everyone to use alphanumeric passwords.[/quotee3ea277675]
haha yea i think it is the second time.	
	
 
	
		Celica
		29-08-2005 21:44:15
	 
	
	
	is this the second time? idk.	
	
 
	
		twhite567
		29-08-2005 21:47:37
	 
	
	
	Yes, it's the second time a password was stolen. I really don't know what happened on the forums at A4F, but they were able to bring down the server. They stole my password for this site and A4F, but not for any freebie sites and I have since changed all my passwords. Whoever did it used a proxy, so I am probably SOL as far as finding them, but since Wes owns the site, it's his job. It's quite annoying that some people have nothing better to dothen try and hack A4F. The host is working on a backup, which is supposed to happen daily, so I hope the server will be backup soon. If not, i'll be out till tomorrow afternoon and Wes will handle it.
-Trevor	
	
 
	
		theysayjump
		29-08-2005 21:51:08
	 
	
	
	good to hear trev!
you sure you werent posessed earlier on?  twisted  wink	
	
 
	
		Strike
		29-08-2005 21:54:31
	 
	
	
	It might be that "Lawyer" person who was ridiculing the forums a couple of days ago.	
	
 
	
		twhite567
		29-08-2005 21:58:35
	 
	
	
	Probably was...whoever it was also got into my gmail account..password for that has now been reset too. I was stupid for using an insecure password, but u don't think people will try and get into it, or at least I didn't.
-Trevor	
	
 
	
		Strike
		29-08-2005 22:07:14
	 
	
	
	Good thing no real damage was done. Back up databases are life savers. 
I guess this provides a great learning experience for all of us.	
	
 
	
		Celica
		30-08-2005 07:40:58
	 
	
	
	weird. it was up this morning but now it's back down.	
	
 
	
		twhite567
		30-08-2005 10:11:57
	 
	
	
	I have some bad news. Read the announcement on the forums homepage.
-Trevor	
	
 
	
		Crynos
		30-08-2005 10:14:38
	 
	
	
	[quotee228ae2d3e="twhite567"]I have some bad news. Read the announcement on the forums homepage.
-Trevor[/quotee228ae2d3e]Wow, youre host sucks, they havent backed up since may?	
	
 
	
		twhite567
		30-08-2005 10:15:43
	 
	
	
	It's a daily backup, but the software I think must have malfunctioned because while the backup is from yesterday, the modified date says may for the sql part.	
	
 
	
		theysayjump
		30-08-2005 10:16:57
	 
	
	
	shit thats bad...........why the fuck wouldnt they back up regularly?	
	
 
	
		gregcool
		30-08-2005 10:36:19
	 
	
	
	Doesn't look good for A4F	
	
 
	
		twhite567
		30-08-2005 10:37:13
	 
	
	
	I'm waiting for a reply from the host to see what they say..hopefully it can all be fixed and i'm wrong about the date of the backup, but I don't think so (	
	
 
	
		Natterjak
		30-08-2005 10:38:25
	 
	
	
	So what was lost?  Everything?  Or just the forums that were deleted?	
	
 
	
		theysayjump
		30-08-2005 10:40:33
	 
	
	
	[quote7b3695f53a]Hello Everyone,
At this time I have some very unfortunate news. It appears the backup provided by our host is as old as May, and therefore does us no good. At this time I have no idea when A4F will be back up. It saddens me tremendously to say that it doesn't look good. The entire top trading and announcement sections of Anything4Free have been deleted. In addition, while the backups solved some problems, they created many more, with missing posts, forums that don't show up, and users that are in the incorrect groups.
I'll give you more info as it becomes available, but Wes will have to deal with most of this, as he owns the site.
-Trevor[/quote7b3695f53a]	
	
 
	
		twhite567
		30-08-2005 10:47:26
	 
	
	
	Everything wasn't lost, but things are messed. For example, mods and groups are completely messed. The reason is that when I restored the old backup (which I thought was new), it added a bunch of old mods/people, so things are not exactly going well. It's too much work to fix easily, so I need to talk to surpass and find out what the hell is going on with the backup.
-Trevor	
	
 
	
		patwalls99
		30-08-2005 10:49:21
	 
	
	
	Perfect time for Wes to get Back!! D 
In all seriousness, this sucks for me.
Any idea when it will be back up?
-Pat	
	
 
	
		Celica
		30-08-2005 12:21:49
	 
	
	
	good luck. hope it goes back up soon.	
	
 
	
		Strike
		30-08-2005 12:25:21
	 
	
	
	Best of luck to you Trevor, and Wes.
This is a tremendous blow to the Freebie World.	
	
 
	
	
	
	[quote95fd1b0267="Strike"]Best of luck to you Trevor, and Wes.
This is a tremendous blow to the Freebie World.[/quote95fd1b0267]
lol i can see it now t-shirts about the hack of a4f bush spending 2 billion to find the hacker and dont	
	
 
	
		Zags1199
		30-08-2005 12:27:41
	 
	
	
	Trevor, do you know who it is?  I'm pretty sure I know who did it.  If you want to talk on AIM, PM me for my screenname.	
	
 
	
		Strike
		30-08-2005 12:31:24
	 
	
	
	I am pretty confident it was that Lawyer guy who accused Sport, Zags and Gatita for "prank calling" his client.	
	
 
	
		patwalls99
		30-08-2005 12:33:33
	 
	
	
	What was his username?	
	
 
	
		Strike
		30-08-2005 12:33:59
	 
	
	
	Can't remember, I know that guy was banned before.	
	
 
	
		Zags1199
		30-08-2005 12:34:11
	 
	
	
	That's not who I believe it is.  In fact, I know it isn't him.  That kid wouldn't know how to hack anything to save his life.  It was a previously banned user, I believe, though.
It was NOT BMXer4LiFe2009 also known as Lawyer.  He's some 14 year old who doesn't know anything about anything.  Unless he got a brain transplant, he could've never pulled it off.	
	
 
	
		Strike
		30-08-2005 12:36:49
	 
	
	
	LOL. I didn't know he was 14. Nevermind then.	
	
 
	
		Godrockdj
		30-08-2005 13:03:54
	 
	
	
	Best of luck to fixing the site.	
	
 
	
		Avenger55
		30-08-2005 13:21:59
	 
	
	
	I believe I know who it was as well, and i'm sure we're thinking of the same person.	
	
 
	
		CoMpFrEaK
		30-08-2005 13:37:02
	 
	
	
	Wow i just saw the notice on A4F. Now im biginning to do what our Admin does. I recall he does backups literally daily on the west/east coasts. A big thumbs up to our Admin!!!!
Anyways, lets welcome the A4F ppl if they decide to come "party" with us lol	
	
 
	
		MikeCele69
		30-08-2005 15:55:18
	 
	
	
	Great =\ Worked hard on a rep on A4F and had over 100 feedbacks and over 1500 posts.....this blows. Now I have to start all new on this site.
-Mike	
	
 
	
		halfbreed
		30-08-2005 15:58:51
	 
	
	
	That really does blow man... (	
	
 
	
		Gunwave
		30-08-2005 15:58:58
	 
	
	
	Holy crap! i just went on A4F and i didnt even log in and i got a PM thats has to be few months old.
 lol  shock	
	
 
	
		Celica
		30-08-2005 16:00:22
	 
	
	
	i cant even get to the a4f homepage.	
	
 
	
		johnjimjones
		30-08-2005 16:05:20
	 
	
	
	lol wow forum users on this site are going to increase a ton, all the more to trade with!	
	
 
	
		Gunwave
		30-08-2005 16:06:33
	 
	
	
	[quotec5b15ae678="CoMpFrEaK"]Wow i just saw the notice on A4F. Now im biginning to do what our Admin does. I recall he does backups literally daily on the west/east coasts. A big thumbs up to our Admin!!!!
Anyways, lets welcome the A4F ppl if they decide to come "party" with us lol[/quotec5b15ae678]
Yeah A4F is/was my usuall freebie hangout. I think ill be coming around here more often.
You see, theres always a upside to bad situations. P	
	
 
	
		MikeCele69
		30-08-2005 16:06:42
	 
	
	
	yes but not people like me who have done almost every site and every offer P	
	
 
	
		Strike
		30-08-2005 16:07:09
	 
	
	
	I tried logging on. But my account doesn't exist. lol.	
	
 
	
		Retro
		30-08-2005 16:08:50
	 
	
	
	[quote54bbbe5f77="twhite567"]Everything wasn't lost, but things are messed. For example, mods and groups are completely messed. The reason is that when I restored the old backup (which I thought was new), it added a bunch of old mods/people, so things are not exactly going well. It's too much work to fix easily, so I need to talk to surpass and find out what the hell is going on with the backup.
-Trevor[/quote54bbbe5f77]
You deal with Surpass? I have reseller hosting from them and they had a big server crash or something a few months ago. And when they were restoring sites they would put in backups that were months old. Finally in the end they put in more recent backups.	
	
 
	
		Celica
		30-08-2005 16:12:54
	 
	
	
	FIPG will double in members if a4f doesnt go back up	
	
 
	
		Retro
		30-08-2005 16:15:22
	 
	
	
	Pretty much...
And look foward to dozens of trade posts saying that there feedback from A4F should be considered here even though you can't see the site	
	
 
	
		climed
		30-08-2005 16:15:52
	 
	
	
	[quote90281e34e4="Celica"]FIPG will double in members if a4f doesnt go back up[/quote90281e34e4]
 shock Are you implying anything?	
	
 
	
		Admin
		30-08-2005 16:20:35
	 
	
	
	As I said to twhite on AIM, I'm here to help in any way I can.  
Sucks about the backup situation.  You're right that I backup a little bit overzealously--
bos@cosimo~/backup$ ls li.tar.li -la
-rw-r--r--  1 bos wheel  344451124 2005-04-21 0035 fipg.20050420.tar.gz
-rw-r--r--  1 bos wheel 1023639027 2005-08-30 1031 fipg.old.tar.gz
-rw-r--r--  1 bos wheel  904613888 2005-08-29 1026 fipg.oldest.tar.gz
-rw-r--r--  1 bos wheel  793650126 2005-07-22 1024 fipg.oldest10.tar.gz
-rw-r--r--  1 bos wheel  792801216 2005-07-21 1023 fipg.oldest11.tar.gz
-rw-r--r--  1 bos wheel  791884515 2005-07-20 1024 fipg.oldest12.tar.gz
-rw-r--r--  1 bos wheel   12386304 2005-08-28 1002 fipg.oldest2.tar.gz
-rw-r--r--  1 bos wheel 1058342716 2005-08-27 1032 fipg.oldest3.tar.gz
-rw-r--r--  1 bos wheel 1022666427 2005-08-26 1031 fipg.oldest4.tar.gz
-rw-r--r--  1 bos wheel 1016781080 2005-08-25 1041 fipg.oldest5.tar.gz
-rw-r--r--  1 bos wheel 1015933075 2005-08-24 1032 fipg.oldest6.tar.gz
-rw-r--r--  1 bos wheel   83739663 2005-04-25 1052 logbackup-20041011.tar.bz2
-rw-r--r--  1 bos wheel   97419948 2005-04-25 1102 logbackup-20041129.tar.bz2
-rw-r--r--  1 bos wheel  126954362 2005-04-25 1109 logbackup-20050304.tar.bz2
-rw-r--r--  1 bos wheel  109508328 2005-04-25 1109 logbackup-20050416.tar.bz2
-rw-r--r--  1 bos wheel   45240514 2005-06-11 1442 logbackup-20050609.tar.bz2
-rw-r--r--  1 bos wheel   25967011 2005-06-25 1221 logbackup-20050625.tar.bz2
-rw-r--r--  1 bos wheel   66121728 2005-08-29 2103 logbackup-20050829.tar.bz2
bos@cosimo~/backup$ du -h
8.7G    .
14 days of daily backups totalling some 8.3 gigabytes - the rest is log file copies (which, uncompressed, are probably 30-40gb).
Thats on my computer at home.  Two other boxes (one in Alabama and one in Florida) get a daily backup as well.  All the transfers are done over secure protocols.
But none of this matters, because the weakest point in any security system is the humans operating it.  Meaning, IF YOU HAVE ANY KIND OF ACCESS, PICK A GOOD PASSWORD!
P.S. if any a4f members do show up here, please do your best to be patient and kind (since the forums are obviously run differently)	
	
 
	
		Celica
		30-08-2005 16:23:32
	 
	
	
	Yah, i already broke one rule. Very sorry about that. I didnt know their was a limit to threads. But i like that rule actually..	
	
 
	
		ummchacha
		30-08-2005 17:20:17
	 
	
	
	Well, you can add me to the former A4F users.  I have been a casual lurker here, but never needed to get involved with a second trading site til lnow.  Worked hard to build up enough feedback, and now I will start all over again.  I wont post my feedback there, as I know it is crud here.  LOL  BUT, that WILL change, as I am gonna start trading away starting tonight!  LOL	
	
 
	
		halfbreed
		30-08-2005 17:23:07
	 
	
	
	I welcome all the A4F users D	
	
 
	
		ummchacha
		30-08-2005 17:30:32
	 
	
	
	Well, we do apprecite the warm welcome!!!   I am ready to get down to business!  LOL	
	
 
	
	
	
	More people the better as long as there cool then i have no problem )	
	
 
	
		twhite567
		30-08-2005 18:42:58
	 
	
	
	UPDATE Eman, one of the server techs at surpass seems to be pretty confident he can get the correct backups working. Cpanel has not been backing up correctly, so we are going to see if the mysql direct backups exist. It seems they do, but hopefully by tomorrow we will be back up. More news as it becomes available.  D 
-Trevor	
	
 
	
		xXHasek99
		30-08-2005 18:45:51
	 
	
	
	viva la revolution!
i'm open to trades!
... and welcome!	
	
 
	
		Celica
		30-08-2005 19:15:27
	 
	
	
	The thing i like about a4f better is how all the siteowners have forums over there.	
	
 
	
		Zags1199
		30-08-2005 19:15:56
	 
	
	
	That's good news, Trevor.	
	
 
	
		halfbreed
		30-08-2005 19:22:42
	 
	
	
	Site owners have forums here as well, well the sites that are popular to FIPG I'm sure if a site owner wanted a forum here the Admin would add them	
	
 
	
		deletrius
		30-08-2005 19:30:25
	 
	
	
	WELCOME!	
	
 
	
		Celica
		30-08-2005 19:43:36
	 
	
	
	you must just post alot. lol	
	
 
	
		Archon810
		30-08-2005 20:40:07
	 
	
	
	why dont y'all from a4f just forget all and join my forums?	
	
 
	
		halfbreed
		30-08-2005 20:45:11
	 
	
	
	I was going to say because these forums pwn yours, but I looked at them right now. Look pretty nice man good job	
	
 
	
		ilanbg
		30-08-2005 22:55:03
	 
	
	
	Man, this sucks.
Hope they go back up smoothly.  If they do, at least we can almost guarantee Trevor will have a more secure backup.	
	
 
	
		Strike
		30-08-2005 22:59:34
	 
	
	
	Archon you should add a conga to your site, if you have the time.	
	
 
	
		Celica
		31-08-2005 15:03:42
	 
	
	
	any news on this?	
	
 
	
		twhite567
		31-08-2005 15:39:59
	 
	
	
	Yeah, essentially surpass sucks. But, I do have good news. We did a backup after the hacker but before we tried to restore. This means that although the trade topics will be lost, members, and everything else should be just fine. Congas, and trade records should be fine. I will have to restore the mods and I'm waiting to hear back from Wes, so bottom line, I hope it will be up tomorrow. 
Also, we have some tips on the hacker. If anyone knows anything, please pm me so we can get this guy. Thanks.
-Trevor	
	
 
	
		Retro
		31-08-2005 15:41:58
	 
	
	
	But once you find the hacker what can you really do to him?
And I saw something on the site about being turned in to "the proper authorities". What authorities would that be?	
	
 
	
		twhite567
		31-08-2005 15:45:37
	 
	
	
	I dunno, that would be up to Wes, not me.	
	
 
	
		Admin
		31-08-2005 16:03:00
	 
	
	
	I don't think there's really much you can do, since (at least from what he did on fipg) he was using a proxy.
Even so, most bigbox cable providers couldn't care less about abuse reports.  The absolute most you can hope for is that they get their internet account dropped... but thats pretty unlikely.	
	
 
	
		twhite567
		31-08-2005 16:08:47
	 
	
	
	Yeah, but I have a tips from a couple people on who it was, so i'm going to research them out. Getting his web account dropped would be nice.
-Trevor	
	
 
	
		Celica
		31-08-2005 17:23:50
	 
	
	
	Good luck. But thanks "admin" for being so welcoming for all the a4f'ers.	
	
 
	
		cwncool
		31-08-2005 17:49:54
	 
	
	
	we'll get alot more trades if the site doesnt go back up! woo-hoo!!!..............but it does sort of stink about A4F.	
	
 
	
		Gunwave
		01-09-2005 17:25:24
	 
	
	
	Latest on A4F
[quote73cf625386]GREAT NEWS )
While things are messy and not all there, most of our data is fine and we should be back up tonight )
Thanks for all of your patience )
-Trevor[/quote73cf625386]	
	
 
	
		clerick
		01-09-2005 18:53:10
	 
	
	
	[quote9dd1b61a57="Gunwave"]Latest on A4F
[quote9dd1b61a57]GREAT NEWS )
While things are messy and not all there, most of our data is fine and we should be back up tonight )
Thanks for all of your patience )
-Trevor[/quote9dd1b61a57][/quote9dd1b61a57]
Great news for A4F members!	
	
 
	
		ilanbg
		01-09-2005 18:53:18
	 
	
	
	Soon, I hope...
Trevor, will PMs all be good?  I assume they will, but I figured double-checking can't hurt.	
	
 
	
		Avenger55
		01-09-2005 19:23:21
	 
	
	
	[quote13f294e611="ilanbg"]Soon, I hope...
Trevor, will PMs all be good?  I assume they will, but I figured double-checking can't hurt.[/quote13f294e611]
No pm's were lost. )	
	
 
	
		jose75043
		01-09-2005 19:31:05
	 
	
	
	[quote02dbd06494="Zags1199"]UPDATE Hey, it's Zags1199. The Trading Feedback thread is back and running. I'm sorry to say that some things I cannot find on Google cache, like Crazyasian169's Guide to Trading. There are still a few things that need to be tidied up. For example, the "hacker" set a lot of people as administrators. I'm unable to change it at the moment, so I'll need to wait for Trevor. With some other tweaks, everything should be running smoothly soon.[/quote02dbd06494]	
	
 
	
		Zags1199
		01-09-2005 20:13:26
	 
	
	
	Yeah, unfortunately, I'm an idiot and I shut myself out of the admin panel while trying to fix permissions for some mods.  Right now, Trevor is the only one with access to the site, so it'll be back in a few hours or sometime tomorrow.
EDIT - And I looked at my Private Messages and none were there, so I'm not sure.  Also, all trade threads have been wiped out, but I restored the Trader Feedback while I was still in there.	
	
 
	
		Gunwave
		02-09-2005 08:03:20
	 
	
	
	A4F is back online!!!!	
	
 
	
		ilanbg
		02-09-2005 11:26:04
	 
	
	
	Not for me...	
	
 
	
		deletrius
		02-09-2005 11:29:32
	 
	
	
	i can't access the forum and the loading is really slow for me...
anyone else havin problem like me?
-deletrius	
	
 
	
		patwalls99
		02-09-2005 11:34:56
	 
	
	
	I'm having the same problem. Sometimes it's real fast, sometimes it won't even load...
-Pat
(I hate this fucking hacker, why did he do this?)	
	
 
	
		Gunwave
		02-09-2005 11:37:23
	 
	
	
	Yes, i get the same thing.	
	
 
	
		deletrius
		02-09-2005 11:44:17
	 
	
	
	icic guess im not the only one...
fukin hackers these day with nothing to do than hack something so important... 
-deletrius	
	
 
	
		patwalls99
		02-09-2005 12:10:44
	 
	
	
	I can't even get on now...	
	
 
	
		Zags1199
		02-09-2005 12:22:44
	 
	
	
	It's probably something with the server since I would normally be able to get in.	
	
 
	
		Avenger55
		02-09-2005 13:10:28
	 
	
	
	Server's dead, it'll be back up just give it time.  This likely has nothing to do with the "hacker" if you want to call him that.  There is no evidence he hacked anything, he just happened to login through an administrators account on the forum, delete some forums, users, etc.	
	
 
	
		jose75043
		02-09-2005 17:27:33
	 
	
	
	[quote690c7d51e6="Avenger55"]Server's dead, it'll be back up just give it time.  This likely has nothing to do with the "hacker" if you want to call him that.  There is no evidence he hacked anything, he just happened to login through an administrators account on the forum, delete some forums, users, etc.[/quote690c7d51e6]
Looks like it's back up again.	
	
 
	
		JOSHBOX
		02-09-2005 17:30:13
	 
	
	
	[quote3ce8197c52="jose75043"][quote3ce8197c52="Avenger55"]Server's dead, it'll be back up just give it time.  This likely has nothing to do with the "hacker" if you want to call him that.  There is no evidence he hacked anything, he just happened to login through an administrators account on the forum, delete some forums, users, etc.[/quote3ce8197c52]
Looks like it's back up again.[/quote3ce8197c52]
Yay now all the noobs will leave!  JK!	
	
 
	
		J4320
		02-09-2005 17:43:12
	 
	
	
	[quoted5e21ef770="JOSHBOX"][quoted5e21ef770="jose75043"][quoted5e21ef770="Avenger55"]Server's dead, it'll be back up just give it time.  This likely has nothing to do with the "hacker" if you want to call him that.  There is no evidence he hacked anything, he just happened to login through an administrators account on the forum, delete some forums, users, etc.[/quoted5e21ef770]
Looks like it's back up again.[/quoted5e21ef770]
Yay now all the noobs will leave!  JK![/quoted5e21ef770]
Take out the JK part.  D	
	
 
	
		Iloveipods2
		03-09-2005 08:53:22
	 
	
	
	hmmmm i'm not able to log back in.................... is it down again?!?!	
	
 
	
		J4320
		03-09-2005 08:58:19
	 
	
	
	YES IT'S DOWN FOR GOOD!	
	
 
	
		Godrockdj
		03-09-2005 08:59:52
	 
	
	
	[quote52c94e1e83="J4320"]YES IT'S DOWN FOR GOOD![/quote52c94e1e83]
 ?  ?  ?	
	
 
	
		J4320
		03-09-2005 09:00:53
	 
	
	
	[quote76685b15d3="Godrockdj"][quote76685b15d3="J4320"]YES IT'S DOWN FOR GOOD![/quote76685b15d3]
 ?  ?  ?[/quote76685b15d3]
 ?  ?  ?	
	
 
	
		patwalls99
		03-09-2005 09:40:49
	 
	
	
	[quote78ac0d0302="J4320"][quote78ac0d0302="Godrockdj"][quote78ac0d0302="J4320"]YES IT'S DOWN FOR GOOD![/quote78ac0d0302]
 ?  ?  ?[/quote78ac0d0302]
 ?  ?  ?[/quote78ac0d0302]
 ?  ?  ?	
	
 
	
		jose75043
		03-09-2005 10:09:07
	 
	
	
	[quote5e5c831576="patwalls99"][quote5e5c831576="J4320"][quote5e5c831576="Godrockdj"][quote5e5c831576="J4320"]YES IT'S DOWN FOR GOOD![/quote5e5c831576]
 ?  ?  ?[/quote5e5c831576]
 ?  ?  ?[/quote5e5c831576]
 ?  ?  ?[/quote5e5c831576]
 ?  ?  ?	
	
 
	
		J4320
		03-09-2005 10:29:34
	 
	
	
	[quote885283f561="jose75043"][quote885283f561="patwalls99"][quote885283f561="J4320"][quote885283f561="Godrockdj"][quote885283f561="J4320"]YES IT'S DOWN FOR GOOD![/quote885283f561]
 ?  ?  ?[/quote885283f561]
 ?  ?  ?[/quote885283f561]
 ?  ?  ?[/quote885283f561]
 ?  ?  ?[/quote885283f561]

http//forum.freeipodguide.com/smilies_mod/upload/206dad385e099cfe7cfd701a069c84ad.gif[" alt=""/img885283f561]	
	
 
	
		cdsnwboard
		03-09-2005 10:31:46
	 
	
	
	[quoteb44d912ea0="jose75043"][quoteb44d912ea0="patwalls99"][quoteb44d912ea0="J4320"][quoteb44d912ea0="Godrockdj"][quoteb44d912ea0="J4320"]YES IT'S DOWN FOR GOOD![/quoteb44d912ea0]
 ?  ?  ?[/quoteb44d912ea0]
 ?  ?  ?[/quoteb44d912ea0]
 ?  ?  ?[/quoteb44d912ea0]
 ?  ?  ?[/quoteb44d912ea0]
stop being idots and replying with question marks. I think thats one of the rules that Admin made a thread about.
liReplying to peoples threads with pointless posts will get you banned. Right from Admins thread. So now, Im gonna tell on u, haha. U'll all get in trouble!	
	
 
	
		J4320
		03-09-2005 10:36:04
	 
	
	
	Stop being a little bratty nerd who goes around telling people what they can and cannot do.	
	
 
	
		patwalls99
		03-09-2005 10:36:35
	 
	
	
	Latest News
"Sorry we are down again. Right when we got back up, someone got in through our supervisor account and messed with the site again. Twhite56 has the most recent backup but he is going to be away until Monday. Avenger55, if you read this and have the same backup, please email= me at email=gogowes@gmail.comgogowes@gmail.com me at email=gogowes@gmail.comgogowes@gmail.com/email.
We will get the forums back up and fully operational again by Monday the latest. (Sooner if I can get a backup before then)
– gogoWes"	
	
 
	
		Zags1199
		03-09-2005 10:44:10
	 
	
	
	I hope they don't think I was the one who got hacked.  I was resetting permissions, nothing was being messed up.	
	
 
	
		JOSHBOX
		03-09-2005 13:08:54
	 
	
	
	Sorry, it was me again.
My bad.	
	
 
	
		patwalls99
		03-09-2005 13:19:39
	 
	
	
	How could you guys let another person get in the accounts?
This is terrible...
-Pat	
	
 
	
		Zags1199
		03-09-2005 20:17:24
	 
	
	
	There was no one in the accounts, if you had actually read my post.  I was resetting permissions, but Wes thinks I got hacked when I didn't.	
	
 
	
		patwalls99
		03-09-2005 20:18:47
	 
	
	
	So will you be up before Monday?	
	
 
	
		cartrenroy
		03-09-2005 20:19:24
	 
	
	
	[quote3531476081="patwalls99"]So will you be up before Monday?[/quote3531476081]
If the mod comes back and gives the back up then YES	
	
 
	
		Avenger55
		03-09-2005 20:40:53
	 
	
	
	The backup is available for Wes whenever he gets back, he hasn't responded to my e-mails.	
	
 
	
		Zags1199
		03-09-2005 23:16:08
	 
	
	
	Avenger, did Wes think I got hackeed or was it someone else?	
	
 
	
		Avenger55
		04-09-2005 00:22:00
	 
	
	
	Well, I haven't heard anything from Wes, so I don't know anything more than you at this point. (	
	
 
	
		Zags1199
		04-09-2005 07:33:29
	 
	
	
	Hm, well, I can see why Wes would think that I got hacked because I was removing all the forum mods permissions and re-instating them because some of them said they were messed up.	
	
 
	
		twhite567
		05-09-2005 12:45:13
	 
	
	
	Well i'm now locked out of the site admin panel.....so I don't know quite what is going on.
-Trevor	
	
 
	
		JOSHBOX
		05-09-2005 12:46:52
	 
	
	
	owned! lol	
	
 
	
		twhite567
		05-09-2005 12:50:58
	 
	
	
	lol nah my guess is Wes just changed the passwords so that the hacker wouldn't get in, but unfortunately he locked me out too.
-T	
	
 
	
		patwalls99
		05-09-2005 12:59:25
	 
	
	
	He did all of that and he never gets on...
Women can do ugly things to ya...
JK
-Pat	
	
 
	
		Mysteriouskk
		06-09-2005 18:01:41
	 
	
	
	Yay, its back up!!!	
	
 
	
		Admin
		06-09-2005 18:29:21
	 
	
	
	Really slow for anyone else?	
	
 
	
		jose75043
		06-09-2005 18:31:05
	 
	
	
	same here	
	
 
	
		twhite567
		06-09-2005 18:43:46
	 
	
	
	Our host is absolutely horrible. I can't imagine we are overloading the damn server, and now that I got the site back up, the server is back down! I can't believe it..hopefully it will be back up..there has to be something putting a huge load on it.
-T	
	
 
	
		doylnea
		06-09-2005 19:17:22
	 
	
	
	[quotea92b1e605b="twhite567"]Our host is absolutely horrible. I can't imagine we are overloading the damn server, and now that I got the site back up, the server is back down! I can't believe it..hopefully it will be back up..there has to be something putting a huge load on it.
-T[/quotea92b1e605b]
like a DDOS perhaps...	
	
 
	
		Zags1199
		06-09-2005 19:44:28
	 
	
	
	My account got reset to May.
Damn, and I didn't even get hacked. |	
	
 
	
		Admin
		06-09-2005 19:57:21
	 
	
	
	If you guys need any help debugging the ddos situation I'm pretty good with apache logs, just drop me an IM (yuo am bad)	
	
 
	
		patwalls99
		06-09-2005 21:13:24
	 
	
	
	theyre up )	
	
 
	
		PeachFrost
		07-09-2005 10:28:25
	 
	
	
	Not up for me....	
	
 
	
		dudelovesFinch1035
		07-09-2005 10:45:26
	 
	
	
	Their down (	
	
 
	
		twhite567
		07-09-2005 15:23:06
	 
	
	
	It's back up..it's going up and down... (	
	
 
	
		ilanbg
		07-09-2005 15:42:05
	 
	
	
	And it's really slow.	
	
 
	
		KeithA
		07-09-2005 16:00:55
	 
	
	
	[quote3893a41449="ilanbg"]And it's really slow.[/quote3893a41449]
Seriously, a clump of molasses would travel down my hairy back quicker than I could post on A4F at the moment.	
	
 
	
		Zags1199
		07-09-2005 20:22:32
	 
	
	
	Some douche bag is using a program to crash the server.	
	
 
	
		Admin
		07-09-2005 20:23:48
	 
	
	
	I tried helping twhite out but a4f's webhost doesn't even provide you with accessible log files.  Not much I can do.	
	
 
	
		Ryanish
		07-09-2005 20:27:32
	 
	
	
	They need to consider moving.	
	
 
	
		Zags1199
		08-09-2005 12:27:05
	 
	
	
	For now, I think he's focused on getting the person who's responsible in trouble.  It's a pretty good idea who it is.	
	
 
	
		doylnea
		08-09-2005 12:32:18
	 
	
	
	[quote1a9bf1c909="Zags1199"]For now, I think he's focused on getting the person who's responsible in trouble.  It's a pretty good idea who it is.[/quote1a9bf1c909]
Good luck with getting anyone outside of anything4free to care.  It's hard to convince local police, or ISPs that small time "hackers" (and I use that term very loosely) are of any consequence to their daily work.	
	
 
	
		Ryanish
		08-09-2005 12:39:15
	 
	
	
	They just are too freaking stupid to fix the problem.
It's not that hard, they are just bloody noobs.	
	
 
	
		Natterjak
		08-09-2005 12:45:08
	 
	
	
	I can't even get on there at all today. (	
	
 
	
		Retro
		08-09-2005 12:57:44
	 
	
	
	[quote182578a14d="doylnea"][quote182578a14d="Zags1199"]For now, I think he's focused on getting the person who's responsible in trouble.  It's a pretty good idea who it is.[/quote182578a14d]
Good luck with getting anyone outside of anything4free to care.  It's hard to convince local police, or ISPs that small time "hackers" (and I use that term very loosely) are of any consequence to their daily work.[/quote182578a14d]
Yeah. It does really suck but I don't think to much if anything at all will happen to the culprit.	
	
 
	
		Avenger55
		08-09-2005 13:03:50
	 
	
	
	[quote4ffa80ed02="Ryanish"]They just are too freaking stupid to fix the problem.
It's not that hard, they are just bloody noobs.[/quote4ffa80ed02]
This is a problem with the server/provider.  I'm not an administrator, so i'm not sure if we have a dedicated server or not.  We may not even have remote shell access to it much less physical access to even fix the problem.  With neither trevor or wes around there's nothing we can do.
If it were my choice we would've gone with a different hosting company from the start.
As or the hacker/password stealer, we're likely not gong to catch the guy, and even if we got some information on him I doubt any authorities would care.	
	
 
	
		Retro
		08-09-2005 13:06:44
	 
	
	
	I really think Surpass might not be equipped to handle the problem. I remember when the server I was using went down they didn't know what to do for a couple of days.	
	
 
	
		climed
		08-09-2005 14:21:17
	 
	
	
	[quote41fc9a4827="Ryanish"]They just are too freaking stupid to fix the problem.
It's not that hard, they are just bloody noobs.[/quote41fc9a4827]
Maybe you should help them fix it.  D 
How many times how they been "hacked" now?  roll	
	
 
	
		Zags1199
		08-09-2005 14:29:33
	 
	
	
	Yes, a better server would be dandy like candy, licoughli, Mandy.	
	
 
	
		Admin
		08-09-2005 15:02:10
	 
	
	
	I tried helping them out, but it's a jailed/shared setup and they don't even have access to access or error logs (except through cpanel), so I can't tail -f and see what's going on.  Plus the mysql daemon seems overloaded.  Overall, both cpanel and the host they use are utterly craptastic.	
	
 
	
		twhite567
		08-09-2005 17:42:01
	 
	
	
	We are still under a DOS attack. I am expecting a response from one of the ISP admins within two hours. I hope Wes gets this guy.
-Trevor	
	
 
	
		PeachFrost
		10-09-2005 10:03:26
	 
	
	
	I wish it would get fixed.....it's getting annoying.  One thing I really liked about that site was the owners of a lot of sites were on there, (Gaitita, Benjette) and they always posted useful stuff about shipping times and such.	
	
 
	
		Sonofshoe
		10-09-2005 10:24:48
	 
	
	
	If you PM Gatita on this site, she answers uber fast.	
	
 
	
		Gunwave
		11-09-2005 02:20:11
	 
	
	
	A4F is working really good right now.	
	
 
	
		Admin
		11-09-2005 02:44:07
	 
	
	
	Can't connect...	
	
 
	
		deletrius
		11-09-2005 06:07:36
	 
	
	
	the site's working now at 607PST	
	
 
	
		Iloveipods2
		11-09-2005 09:05:26
	 
	
	
	won't work for me!	
	
 
	
		Zags1199
		11-09-2005 09:22:56
	 
	
	
	This is getting so lame.	
	
 
	
		goofygarber
		11-09-2005 09:47:58
	 
	
	
	Doesn't load for me	
	
 
	
		dudelovesFinch1035
		11-09-2005 09:51:57
	 
	
	
	Up and Down (	
	
 
	
		Skeeter
		11-09-2005 10:02:02
	 
	
	
	That site has got more ups and downs than a woman during her PMS.   (	
	
 
	
		Zags1199
		13-09-2005 15:41:21
	 
	
	
	I don't know why my other post was deleted, but whatever.
Why can't you just move servers?  Seriously, it's not worth it to put up with this crap.