Dont do Blackjack Ballroom casino!!(w00t i met the WR!!!!)

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JUNIOR6886

26-09-2005 06:48:37

This has got to be the worst way to lose 165$..........

I see the promotion on www.Evenmore4free.com offering gameboy micros and ipodshuffles for doing certain casino offers and i get exicted. I signup and see that ive already done all the other qualifing casinos except for blackjack ballroom which requires a 300$ deposit. Im a little scared to do the offer because 300$ is a huge ass risk but i see the wager requirement is only 800$ so i go ahead and deposit the 300$ I got a 40% bonus so i now had 420$

i wager the 800$ and i end up with 365.50$ I tried to cashout with the bonus but i got an email saying i still have to wager well over 5000
to cashout. I figure "ok i'll just walk away with my own money without the stupid bonus and just take a 55$ loss." The casino said i couldnt do that either. So now im out 300$ but at least i got paid 35$ to be a ref for someone and the gameboy micro is 100$ msrp

I wasent planning actually working on this site but now i have to get some refferals of my own and then sell my gift just so i can fucking break even with the 165$ i lost.
The odds at the casino are TERRIBLE I keep losing even when i hit 19 or 20 the computer keeps beating me with 21 or blackjack. Im gonna complain to my credit card company and see if they can remove the charge to my credit card but i doubt that will work.....
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Sonofshoe

26-09-2005 06:56:54

If the deal said a $800 wager requirement, dont just let them kick you in the pants.

You probably should have called them on it.

Allen626

26-09-2005 07:34:37

800$ wage credit to get the green, not to cash out the bonus. You still have money in you're casino account? If you wager 1$ at a time you can hit the 5000$ WR, and still break even.

JUNIOR6886

26-09-2005 07:42:39

[quotefa155ce743="Allen626"]800$ wage credit to get the green, not to cash out the bonus. You still have money in you're casino account? If you wager 1$ at a time you can hit the 5000$ WR, and still break even.[/quotefa155ce743]

yeah i know now that the 800$ was for the green alone..... Usually the green WR is much lower than the cashout WR but i thought blackjack ballroom was an exception... i tried telling myself that i could make it to 5000$ betting 1$ at a time but the odds at that casino are totally unfair.
i keep getting 16 or losing with 19 and 20 its total bullshit
at this point it would be far easier to pay fo greens and then sell whatever gift i choose for 165$ proft than to try and bet and break even with the casino. Plus maybe the complaint i file with my credit card company will help...

FreeOffersNow

26-09-2005 08:06:23

Interesting...I'd heard from several people that Blackjack Ballroom was one of their favorites. I wonder why they are requiring a $300 minimum deposit?

JUNIOR6886

26-09-2005 09:00:40

I wish there was a way to sell a casino account......
only problem is my credit card info is probably still recorded on the account......

slease

26-09-2005 09:38:46

I've had casino problems like this before... it's in their nature. It is highly unlikely that the casino is stacking the deck against you which means that the odds are probably the same as every other casino. If you do a lot of casino offers though you aren't going to win at every one. You have to consider casino profits in the long run.

Your post is confusing... do you still have money in your bankroll or not? If you do than play multihand blackjack with $1 wagers and get yourself to that $5000 wager requirement... it doesn't take as long as it seems.

JUNIOR6886

26-09-2005 09:53:11

yeah i still have the money in my bank roll... but playing 5000 games of blackjack is way too time consuming... i guess i dont have much choice though..... Most casinos will let you witdraw your deposit minus the bonus if you dont meet the wager requirements. This casino is the only one ive played in that wont let you at least witdraw your own money if you dont meet the WR

slease

26-09-2005 09:58:14

[quote8e0ab47b7b="JUNIOR6886"]yeah i still have the money in my bank roll... but playing 5000 games of blackjack is way too time consuming... i guess i dont have much choice though..... Most casinos will let you witdraw your deposit minus the bonus if you dont meet the wager requirements. This casino is the only one ive played in that wont let you at least witdraw your own money if you dont meet the WR[/quote8e0ab47b7b]

Can you play multihand blackjack? Play 3 x $1 hands and it'll cut your time down to about 1-2 hours.

Wolfeman

26-09-2005 13:54:55

For most of the casino sites, don't take the bonuses because you have to wager a shit load to be able to withdraw...

hehehhehe

26-09-2005 14:10:25

If you have $365 and you're still considering it a loss anyway, why not just play with it? If you don't want to do the $1 bets, just keep doubling up when you lose? You'll get to $5000 pretty quickly.

Best case - You'll win some money
Worst case - You have a $165 loss but that's where you are now anyway (at least in your head).

I finally won some at Grand Online, but only $100 (plus the $75 neteller bonus). I was up to $465 profit at one point but lost some $100 bets...

lakersin2025

27-09-2005 18:57:32

I always play $5 hands. $1 takes forever.

Peinecone

27-09-2005 19:03:43

I did this same casino for the same site. I deposited $400 and got a bonus of $160. After meeting the HUGE WR to cash out, my balance is $690. So i made $290

Peinecone

27-09-2005 20:17:44

I think this is actually an easy casino site to complete for credit if you reject the bonus. Betting 800 is very easy, and if you play $1-$2 hands, the risk is pretty low. Then you just cash out.

lakersin2025

27-09-2005 20:57:42

Is there a reason you should play $1 hands instead of $5?

I'm going to sign up for 2 casino offers tonight for gamesgifts, any suggestions? Here are my choices
Giant Vegas Casino
Casino Las Vegas
Blackjack Ballroom
Oasis Casino
Geisha Bingo

So far I've liked Starluck the best because the dealer hits on a soft 17.

Peinecone

27-09-2005 21:04:21

[quotea8f15c354c="lakersin2025"]Is there a reason you should play $1 hands instead of $5?

I'm going to sign up for 2 casino offers tonight for gamesgifts, any suggestions? Here are my choices
Giant Vegas Casino
Casino Las Vegas
Blackjack Ballroom
Oasis Casino
Geisha Bingo

So far I've liked Starluck the best because the dealer hits on a soft 17.[/quotea8f15c354c]
I think Giant Vegas and Blackjack Ballroom are the same network. Only Giant doesn't have blackjack. Don't quote me though.

JUNIOR6886

27-09-2005 21:23:25

I should have have investigated the terms of the bonus clearly......
if i didnt choose their shite bonus i could have gotten away with 245
out of my 300$ deposit and Still made a hefty profit considering im
getting a 100$ gameboy micro the 35$ i was paid to do the offer...
im used to playing 1$ hands but thers no way im gonna meet the WR during this decade if i do that.....

Retro

27-09-2005 21:29:31

Don't even waist your time calling your credit card company. You'll just sound like a whiney baby. Like you said, you should have read the terms more carefully. It sucks ( just play and see what happens.

shamash

27-09-2005 21:41:50

do a $200 bet and see what happens

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JUNIOR6886

27-09-2005 21:46:00

[b18dd38a5d9]Junior How much do I have left to wager?
Marcus for type 30 games its $11,777
Marcus and Type 15 is $5,888[/b18dd38a5d9]

Marcus You are required to wager the credits placed in your account as well as any deposit required to earn that bonus prior to withdrawal. This does not mean that you can't win with your credits, only that you must wager this amount before withdrawing any winnings.
Marcus The equation you must follow is (Amount deposited + bonus) x fifteen (15) for all games except Video Poker and Power Poker which require thirty (30) times turnover and Blackjack, Multihand Blackjack, European BlackJack, Vegas Strip BlackJack, Vegas Downtown Blackjack, Double Exposure Blackjack, Atlantic City Blackjack, Spanish Blackjack and Bonus Blackjack which require sixty (60) times turnover. Using the promotional bonus for no risk wagers or to wager on Roulette, Progressive Roulette, Sic Bo, Baccarat, or Craps does not fulfill your obligation with regard to the total amount wagered prior to withdrawal.
Marcus Using the promotional bonus for no risk wagers or to wager on Roulette, Progressive Roulette, Sic Bo, Baccarat, or Craps does not fulfil your obligation with regard to the total amount wagered prior to withdrawal
Marcus Have a good day!

so many fucking games are 30 and 60x that im having a hard time finding out what i CAN play for a 15x wager....

Wolfeman

27-09-2005 21:46:36

When I'm drunk in Vegas I usually make 1 $100 bet on blackjack at the end of the night...

kyks17

01-10-2005 15:11:04

im about to do the blackjack ballroom thing for allthis4free, without taking the bonus. if i dunt take the bonus, can i get my own money back out? and can i get my own money back out if i dunt meet hte $800 WR of allthis4free? i couldnt really find any info on this -\

Wolfeman

01-10-2005 16:04:53

I'd call their support b/c every casino site is different...

JUNIOR6886

01-10-2005 20:35:13

CALL THEIR SUPPORT BEFORE YOU DEPOSIT A CENT OF YOUR MONEY.
Im pretty sure they will tell you that once you deposit the 300$ its gone....
800 WR is for credit not to cashout to cashout you have to wager at least over 5000$ its stupid, do an offer with a 50-100$ deposit with a non sticky bonus..

Lupi

02-10-2005 04:28:04

[quotec32d403dc2="lakersin2025"]
So far I've liked Starluck the best because the dealer hits on a soft 17.[/quotec32d403dc2]

What seriously? "Dealer hits on 17" increases the house edge by 0.22%...

[quotec32d403dc2]so many fucking games are 30 and 60x that im having a hard time finding out what i CAN play for a 15x wager....[/quotec32d403dc2]

Try Pai Gow Poker... The house edge is about 1%, and there are a lot of ties Just bet $5 or more a hand (if you're comfortable with it) and you'll meet the WR quickly... Or Super Fun 21 (BlackJack). I don't see it in their 30x list.

- Lupi

JUNIOR6886

02-10-2005 04:35:04

thanks! im gona try super fun 21 then D

kyks17

02-10-2005 12:50:34

[quote7e04e5d3d1="JUNIOR6886"]CALL THEIR SUPPORT BEFORE YOU DEPOSIT A CENT OF YOUR MONEY.
Im pretty sure they will tell you that once you deposit the 300$ its gone....
800 WR is for credit not to cashout to cashout you have to wager at least over 5000$ its stupid, do an offer with a 50-100$ deposit with a non sticky bonus..[/quote7e04e5d3d1]

everything was cool. i deposited $300, took no bonuses no matter what, wagered the $800 for the credit, liked playing and kept going til id wagered a lil over $1000, then cashed out the $230 i had left. no problem at all with no bonuses

JUNIOR6886

03-10-2005 18:03:25

OMFG
I was feeling bad about the money i lost and thought i will just make a huge bet so i can lose all my money fast and uninstall the stupid casino
so i made a 200$ wager and I FUCKING WON now i have 500$ in my account. I started with 300+120 bomus (420) so im up by a good ammount....

Retro

03-10-2005 18:17:48

Please cash out now and uninstall the casino

Peinecone

03-10-2005 18:20:19

So are you past the betting requirements now? If so, cash the fuck out. If not, only play $1 hands until you are.

JUNIOR6886

03-10-2005 18:24:27

i havent met the requirements yet ( i fet so good after winning the 200$ i made some more big bets now i only have 470.....
im gonna wager 1$ at a time till i meet the WR D

JUNIOR6886

03-10-2005 20:07:00

Sorry to double post but i just discovered an important feature to this casino!!! D There is an auto play mode where you can make your own strategy card and have the computer play for you using your strategy...
I just copoed a strategy set the autoplay to 500 1$ deals. I set it to stop playing if i lose more than 150$
if this turns out well i might be able to finish in no time D

Lupi

04-10-2005 02:48:45

Careful. I'm not sure, but I think that most, if not all casinos do not count autoplay BlackJack towards the wagering requirements...

Better doublecheck with their CS!

JUNIOR6886

04-10-2005 03:24:34

i checked with the CS and the autoplay does count!
D

JUNIOR6886

04-10-2005 18:16:30

update
autoplay rocks my socks!!!
i just made 65$ more doing the 500 deal autoplay and now my current balance is 428$ (remember my deposit + bonus is 420$) i just have to repeat this 18 more times and i can cash teh fux0r out D

Wolfeman

04-10-2005 23:07:01

I posted this in another thread but I got 2 Royal Flushes in 3 hands last night on PokerRoom. Pretty sweet huh?

JUNIOR6886

05-10-2005 07:20:51

im doing pretty good myself in blackjack ballroom
AutoPlay makes this shit so fucking easy. im back at around 500$
and ive been able to wager thousands of dollars using the perfect chart strategy without doing the work myself. I think i might be able to meet the WR AND make a fuckload of money while doing it. And to think i was just gonna uninstall the casino and let those fuckers have their way with my 300$ .....

Peinecone

05-10-2005 07:21:57

I made $290 profit from these guys.

JUNIOR6886

05-10-2005 07:25:36

im almost willing to change my topic to Recommend
insted of avoid.... but im gonna wait till i meet the WR before i get too excited.... D

only 2000$ more to go D

JUNIOR6886

05-10-2005 16:57:53

WOOOOOOOOOOT i fucking met the wagering requirements!!!!!!!!!!!
(confirmed by customer support)
I have 348$ in my account so im walking away with a nice chunk of the
casinos money. And to think i almost gave up completely......
the 48$ profit from the casino plus the 100$ gameboy micro im getting
and the 35$ i got paid to do the offer makes my total profit.
[bd65f2b8938]183$[/bd65f2b8938] D D D D D D

Wolfeman

05-10-2005 17:00:23

[quote49e8401496="JUNIOR6886"]WOOOOOOOOOOT i fucking met the wagering requirements!!!!!!!!!!!
I have 348$ in my account so im walking away with a nice chunk of the
casinos money. And to think i almost gave up completely......
the 48$ profit from the casino plus the 100$ gameboy micro im getting
and the 35$ i got paid to do the offer makes my total profit.
[b49e8401496]183$[/b49e8401496] D D D D D D[/quote49e8401496]

Congrats!

mrwzk

05-10-2005 17:45:22

sweet so now its do blackjack casion not dont do

Retro

05-10-2005 18:58:34

I'm sorry but this confirms that you're a whiney little baby that complains whenever something looks like it might not go your way

Congrats on the profit D

Retro

05-10-2005 18:59:04

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JUNIOR6886

05-10-2005 19:19:27

[quotee5fdb76c45="Retro"]I'm sorry but this confirms that you're a whiney little baby that complains whenever something looks like it might not go your way

Congrats on the profit lol[/quotee5fdb76c45]

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