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Averagejoe1039

07-12-2005 18:41:57

Anybody gonna go see this movie? I really cannot deicde about this one. I'm open to gays and everything, just I don't know if it's worthy of my precious money. It looks kinda risque. I love Gyllenhal in movies though. Jarhead anyone? What do you guys think?

P.S. And if you are like "What the Hell is he talking about, some porno?" Here is a link, (it's not porno!) http//movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hv&cf=info&id=1808403312[]http//movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hv&cf=info&id=1808403312

shamash

07-12-2005 18:51:47

jake gyllenhaal is one of my favorite actors ever.

i'm definately seeing it, and think it's going to be amazing.

shamash

07-12-2005 18:54:34

BTW you can see the special on it with some backstage footage and clips and great stuff here

http//www.mininova.org/tor/170420

aguy

07-12-2005 18:55:46

my gay friend from P.E. asked if i wanted to go see it with him...

i said fuck no..

but i do wanna go see it

JUNIOR6886

07-12-2005 18:59:31

lol lol lol

akalic

07-12-2005 19:07:38

wheres the porno

shamash

07-12-2005 19:19:15

/ It really isn't a "gay cowboy movie," as many people think of it as.

drummer_kew_03

07-12-2005 19:26:56

Really? Cause that's how it comes off.

shamash

07-12-2005 19:31:38

it's an american love story.

cyberpunk243

07-12-2005 19:32:24

[quoteaa7e996bdf="shamash"]it's an american love story.[/quoteaa7e996bdf]

This is true. Nothing more "American" than two gay cowboys falling in love. D

shamash

07-12-2005 19:34:20

roll

Aren't you creative.

mnx12

07-12-2005 20:09:41

Well I kinda want to see it, but if i did my parents would think im gay or something, haha. So if I do see it, it probably wont be until it comes out on dvd.

shamash

07-12-2005 20:17:28

1.) You're 17. You can goto a movie alone.
2.) It's kind of sad if you're not comfortable enough with yourself to see a movie like this with your parents. If you're not gay, why would it matter if your parents think you are. If you are gay, then why does it matter if your parents think you are?

J4320

07-12-2005 20:24:24

Lol gay cowboys. lol

If I were in the theater I would probably be that idiot in the back who disrupts the movie by laughing really hard.

theysayjump

07-12-2005 20:25:21

[quote7849a009cc="shamash"]1.) You're 17. You can goto a movie alone.
2.) It's kind of sad if you're not comfortable enough with yourself to see a movie like this with your parents. If you're not gay, why would it matter if your parents think you are. If you are gay, then why does it matter if your parents think you are?[/quote7849a009cc]

I don't bereive (yes I meant beReive) it, I agree with shamash about something shock

Generally people are only offended or let things bother them which are true or they feel ashamed of. If you're not gay, then why should you be bothered if people think you are? If you are gay, then why should you feel bothered about people thinking you are gay when you are?

People spend far too much time worrying about what other people think of themselves, or what other people look like, instead of things that really matter. roll shrug

mnx12

07-12-2005 20:25:21

[quote8787caf469="shamash"]1.) You're 17. You can goto a movie alone.
2.) It's kind of sad if you're not comfortable enough with yourself to see a movie like this with your parents. If you're not gay, why would it matter if your parents think you are. If you are gay, then why does it matter if your parents think you are?[/quote8787caf469]
1.) Boooring
2.) Can you say Mormon?

Allen626

07-12-2005 20:28:11

[quote33d144b94a="theysayjump"][quote33d144b94a="shamash"]1.) You're 17. You can goto a movie alone.
2.) It's kind of sad if you're not comfortable enough with yourself to see a movie like this with your parents. If you're not gay, why would it matter if your parents think you are. If you are gay, then why does it matter if your parents think you are?[/quote33d144b94a]

I don't bereive (yes I meant beReive) it, I agree with shamash about something shock

Generally people are only offended or let things bother them which are true or they feel ashamed of. If you're not gay, then why should you be bothered if people think you are? If you are gay, then why should you feel bothered about people thinking you are gay when you are?

People spend far too much time worrying about what other people think of themselves, or what other people look like, instead of things that really matter. roll shrug[/quote33d144b94a]

It does matter what people think to a degree. I know you would get made fun of at my school if someone went to see this movie, you would probaly get ridiculed all the time. And noone likes to be ridiculed or pushed out. Even if you have good friends that would not care, you still do not want to be known as gay.

J4320

07-12-2005 20:29:16

[quoted403911ac1="cyberpunk243"][quoted403911ac1="shamash"]it's an american love story.[/quoted403911ac1]

This is true. Nothing more "American" than two gay cowboys falling in love. D[/quoted403911ac1]

Lol! If I had been drinking something when you said that it would be all over the keyboard and the computer screen. D

And...

[quoted403911ac1="shamash"]/ It really isn't a "gay cowboy movie," as many people think of it as.[/quoted403911ac1]

Oh? Care to explain what it really is? Is this really about gay guys?

theysayjump

07-12-2005 20:33:52

[quote10bb150637="Allen626"][quote10bb150637="theysayjump"][quote10bb150637="shamash"]1.) You're 17. You can goto a movie alone.
2.) It's kind of sad if you're not comfortable enough with yourself to see a movie like this with your parents. If you're not gay, why would it matter if your parents think you are. If you are gay, then why does it matter if your parents think you are?[/quote10bb150637]

I don't bereive (yes I meant beReive) it, I agree with shamash about something shock

Generally people are only offended or let things bother them which are true or they feel ashamed of. If you're not gay, then why should you be bothered if people think you are? If you are gay, then why should you feel bothered about people thinking you are gay when you are?

People spend far too much time worrying about what other people think of themselves, or what other people look like, instead of things that really matter. roll shrug[/quote10bb150637]

It does matter what people think to a degree. I know you would get made fun of at my school if someone went to see this movie, you would probaly get ridiculed all the time. And noone likes to be ridiculed or pushed out. Even if you have good friends that would not care, you still do not want to be known as gay.[/quote10bb150637]

Well see that's different for each person. I personlly couldn't care less what anyone thinks of me except my wife. Everyone else can fuck off as far as I'm concerned.

True, nobody likes to be made fun of, but that is stilln o reason to not do something you want to. When you say that it does matter to a degree, it's different for each person. Not everyone cares what other people think, not everyone would/will be made of fun if they went to see it.

It's sad and there's not really much that can be doen about it, other than try to bring your kids up as "un-ignorant" as possible.

ConfusedPigeon

07-12-2005 20:36:56

American love story? Thats disgusting! First If it were about heterosexuals, it would be a chick flick. Second It is about gay men, making it an uber-chick flick. Why would you be compelled to see this? Are you a woman?
This isn't meant to be personal, I am just wondering why this would appeal to a straight-male audience?

cyberpunk243

07-12-2005 20:42:02

Well I will wait until the ratings from one of my favorite film reviewers, James Beradinelli, comes out. I am a movie nerd and the premise of the movie doesn't really have an effect on me. I am not gay and it IS just a movie. Not to mention, both of these guys in this movie are chick magnets. I was just making a joke about it being an "American love story."

ConfusedPigeon

07-12-2005 20:46:04

Ok, that makes a little more sense.

J4320

07-12-2005 20:48:02

I watched the preview.....

I don't really know what to say. I actually don't think I'd be the one in the back of the theater laughing. But I still don't have an interest in this.

drummer_kew_03

07-12-2005 20:48:39

[quote7c4a04de02="shamash"]2.) It's kind of sad if you're not comfortable enough with yourself to see a movie like this with your parents. [/quote7c4a04de02]

Yeah, what kind of teenager are you if you're not comfortable watching two guys have sex with your parents? roll

cyberpunk243

07-12-2005 20:49:06

[quote8f73b6cbc1="ConfusedPigeon"]Ok, that makes a little more sense.[/quote8f73b6cbc1]

No. I wasn't the one who said that. I was the one who originally made fun of this in a sarcastic way. Read before and you shall see.

theysayjump

07-12-2005 20:49:12

[quoted00f1677b7="ConfusedPigeon"]American love story? Thats disgusting! First If it were about heterosexuals, it would be a chick flick. Second It is about gay men, making it an uber-chick flick. Why would you be compelled to see this? Are you a woman?
This isn't meant to be personal, I am just wondering why this would appeal to a straight-male audience?[/quoted00f1677b7]

You do realise there is such a thing as "culture" right? A variety of art, music, movies, history, beliefs, from all over the world, representing different things and meaning something different to different people from all walks of life?

Usually people who have an inkling of culture in them or have some kind of desire to "think outside the box" tend to admire things for the way they are presented, put forward, displayed, told etc.

It's narrow-minded to think that a film about "2 gay cowboys" has no subsance to it, no art or good story-telling. Are you one of those people who only watch colour films that are all spoken in English with no subtitles?

Open your mind a bit and look at things from a different perspective. A perspective where you can find interest or admiration in things that you don't even agree with.

cyberpunk243

07-12-2005 20:50:30

[quotedebdba8c38="theysayjump"][quotedebdba8c38="ConfusedPigeon"]American love story? Thats disgusting! First If it were about heterosexuals, it would be a chick flick. Second It is about gay men, making it an uber-chick flick. Why would you be compelled to see this? Are you a woman?
This isn't meant to be personal, I am just wondering why this would appeal to a straight-male audience?[/quotedebdba8c38]

You do realise there is such a thing as "culture" right? A variety of art, music, movies, history, beliefs, from all over the world, representing different things and meaning something different to different people from all walks of life?

Usually people who have an inkling of culture in them or have some kind of desire to "think outside the box" tend to admire things for the way they are presented, put forward, displayed, told etc.

It's narrow-minded to think that a film about "2 gay cowboys" has no subsance to it, no art or good story-telling. Are you one of those people who only watch colour films that are all spoken in English with no subtitles?

Open your mind a bit and look at things from a different perspective. A perspective where you can find interest or admiration in things that you don't even agree with.[/quotedebdba8c38]

Amen brother. Are you a fellow movie nerd as well?

ConfusedPigeon

07-12-2005 20:54:21

"Are you one of those people who only watch colour films that are all spoken in English with no subtitles? " Actually, I am smile.... Unless I'm in spanish class. I appreciate art. Just not that kind, I find it weird. I don't mean to bash this stuff, I just feel pretty strongly about it.

shamash

07-12-2005 20:59:03

[quote3e79c05917="ConfusedPigeon"]American love story? Thats disgusting! First If it were about heterosexuals, it would be a chick flick. Second It is about gay men, making it an uber-chick flick. Why would you be compelled to see this? Are you a woman?
This isn't meant to be personal, I am just wondering why this would appeal to a straight-male audience?[/quote3e79c05917]

No, I'm not a woman, I happen to be gay.

[quote3e79c05917="mnx12"][quote3e79c05917="shamash"]1.) You're 17. You can goto a movie alone.
2.) It's kind of sad if you're not comfortable enough with yourself to see a movie like this with your parents. If you're not gay, why would it matter if your parents think you are. If you are gay, then why does it matter if your parents think you are?[/quote3e79c05917]
1.) Boooring
2.) Can you say Mormon?[/quote3e79c05917]

1.) Well, you could also go with friends. And if you want to see the movie, then don't let your parents hold you back.
2.) I know gay mormons, and have a lot of mormon friends. It's really rude of you to, even if you are one, stereotype mormons as people who dislike gay people.

[quote3e79c05917="drummer_kew_03"][quote3e79c05917="shamash"]2.) It's kind of sad if you're not comfortable enough with yourself to see a movie like this with your parents. [/quote3e79c05917]

Yeah, what kind of teenager are you if you're not comfortable watching two guys have sex with your parents? roll[/quote3e79c05917]

Apparently, from the reviews of it, there is only one love scene and it's very short. Just because a movie has sex in it, doesn't mean that's all it's about. And he's 17, it's not like he's never heard of sex or gay people before.



And then I didn't read the ones on the second pgae, too long O Damn WoW forums.

theysayjump

07-12-2005 20:59:21

[quote57cb4aa2c2="cyberpunk243"][quote57cb4aa2c2="theysayjump"][quote57cb4aa2c2="ConfusedPigeon"]American love story? Thats disgusting! First If it were about heterosexuals, it would be a chick flick. Second It is about gay men, making it an uber-chick flick. Why would you be compelled to see this? Are you a woman?
This isn't meant to be personal, I am just wondering why this would appeal to a straight-male audience?[/quote57cb4aa2c2]

You do realise there is such a thing as "culture" right? A variety of art, music, movies, history, beliefs, from all over the world, representing different things and meaning something different to different people from all walks of life?

Usually people who have an inkling of culture in them or have some kind of desire to "think outside the box" tend to admire things for the way they are presented, put forward, displayed, told etc.

It's narrow-minded to think that a film about "2 gay cowboys" has no subsance to it, no art or good story-telling. Are you one of those people who only watch colour films that are all spoken in English with no subtitles?

Open your mind a bit and look at things from a different perspective. A perspective where you can find interest or admiration in things that you don't even agree with.[/quote57cb4aa2c2]

Amen brother. Are you a fellow movie nerd as well?[/quote57cb4aa2c2]

So-so. I don't really watch them alot, but I don't not watch a film because of it's content. I'm not a Nazi, but Romper Stomper and American History X are great movies. Nor am I gay but Philadelpiha is a great movie.

ConfusedPigeon

07-12-2005 20:59:55

[quotec8ef8337de="shamash"]1.) You're 17. You can goto a movie alone.
2.) It's kind of sad if you're not comfortable enough with yourself to see a movie like this with your parents. If you're not gay, why would it matter if your parents think you are. If you are gay, then why does it matter if your parents think you are?[/quotec8ef8337de]

I don't want my parents to think I'm gay. That would be awkward.

theysayjump

07-12-2005 21:00:55

[quote94051ae061="ConfusedPigeon"][quote94051ae061="shamash"]1.) You're 17. You can goto a movie alone.
2.) It's kind of sad if you're not comfortable enough with yourself to see a movie like this with your parents. If you're not gay, why would it matter if your parents think you are. If you are gay, then why does it matter if your parents think you are?[/quote94051ae061]

I don't want my parents to think I'm gay. That would be weird.[/quote94051ae061]

Are you gay? If not then why does it matter if they think you are?

shamash

07-12-2005 21:03:25

[quote3c25ba396b="ConfusedPigeon"][quote3c25ba396b="shamash"]1.) You're 17. You can goto a movie alone.
2.) It's kind of sad if you're not comfortable enough with yourself to see a movie like this with your parents. If you're not gay, why would it matter if your parents think you are. If you are gay, then why does it matter if your parents think you are?[/quote3c25ba396b]

I don't want my parents to think I'm gay. That would be weird.[/quote3c25ba396b]

If you aren't gay, why would they think you are? Because you want to see a movie that has gay people in it? I don't think that watching a movie with gay people in it makes you gay.

Have you never seen any movies with gay relationships, or implied gay relationships? The recently made-to-movie RENT, the TV show Will and Grace.. Even if there are less obvious ones, there's a lot of homosexuality in the entertainment media.

ConfusedPigeon

07-12-2005 21:03:34

Becuase I care what my parents think about me, I'm not gay. I don't want people to think I am, I care about my image. I'm not saying that you should care, just that I do. I guess it is just one of my traits.

shamash

07-12-2005 21:05:03

But I mean, honestly, are your parents really going to think you're gay for watching this movie? That really puzzles me, how wanting to see a movie can make you gay. I'd hope your parents are more intelligent than to think that..

ConfusedPigeon

07-12-2005 21:05:28

[quote4241ef43fc="shamash"]Have you never seen any movies with gay relationships, or implied gay relationships? The recently made-to-movie RENT, the TV show Will and Grace.. Even if there are less obvious ones, there's a lot of homosexuality in the entertainment media.[/quote4241ef43fc]

No, veiwing this movie doesn't make you gay in any way, I am just making a general statement.

ConfusedPigeon

07-12-2005 21:06:02

[quote8a444f7f7a="shamash"]Have you never seen any movies with gay relationships, or implied gay relationships? The recently made-to-movie RENT, the TV show Will and Grace.. Even if there are less obvious ones, there's a lot of homosexuality in the entertainment media.[/quote8a444f7f7a]

No, veiwing this movie doesn't make you gay in any way, I am just making a general statement.

shamash

07-12-2005 21:08:11

The general statement that your parents would think you're gay if you saw this movie.

The statement which probably isn't true. If you talked to them about it, I'm sure they would understand. Humans are curious beings, and we like to know more about things we're uninformed about.

justinag06

07-12-2005 21:18:38

honstly shamash leave it be.

Would a 17 year old enjoy this kind of movie? If you aren't going to the Angelika every friday to see the latest arthouse movie, everyones parents would think it was kinda wierd when you go see the new gay cowboy movie.

And to explain what someone tried to say about its not about two gay people. I think its more of a companionship relationship that they have then a homosexual one.

shamash

07-12-2005 21:30:51

I've read the book, and they're "gay," but they aren't actually [b46118db2f3]gay[/b46118db2f3]. They're in love, and have a sexual relationship. It's hard to explain.

And why would we be arguing about it if he didn't want to see it? He said that he wanted to see it, but didn't want his parents to think he was gay. That's why we're having the argument. He thinks he would enjoy the movie, which is why he wants to see it, but he is afraid of his parent's reaction.

ConfusedPigeon

07-12-2005 21:41:55

I don't want to be part of this anymore. Sorry if I have offended anyone, I am just prone to burn every bridge I walk on.

ditto_mark

07-12-2005 23:02:24

[quotec470e1b98e="Averagejoe1039"]I love Gyllenhal in movies though. Jarhead anyone? What do you guys think?[/quotec470e1b98e]

I think you should see Donny Darko.

Wolfeman

07-12-2005 23:55:25

I didn't read one post in this thread but...

Does anyone remember the South Park where the independent film festival comes into town and Cartman bitches about all indie films are about gay cowboys that eat pudding? There better not be any pudding is this movie or I'll lose it.

Now King Kong I'm excited about...
http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=28114

justinag06

08-12-2005 01:25:10

lol yes thats the first thing i though of when i hear about it

J4320

08-12-2005 06:02:03

[quote343434344d="shamash"][b343434344d]I've read the book, and they're "gay," but they aren't actually gay. They're in love, and have a sexual relationship. It's hard to explain.[/b343434344d][/quote343434344d]

That would be gay. Maybe they aren't openly gay about it, but that would definitely be gay.

hairyferry

08-12-2005 07:05:41

[quote1327b23064="aguy"]my gay friend from P.E. asked if i wanted to go see it with him...

i said fuck no..

but i do wanna go see it[/quote1327b23064]

lol ah hu ah hu "your gay friend from PE" lol, shower anyone??

cyberpunk243

08-12-2005 07:37:43

[quote91f4084bd0="theysayjump"]
So-so. I don't really watch them alot, but I don't not watch a film because of it's content. I'm not a Nazi, but Romper Stomper and American History X are great movies. Nor am I gay but Philadelpiha is a great movie.[/quote91f4084bd0]

I love American History X. It is one of my favorite movies of all-time. Here is a guide I did a little while back with some of my favorite movies in case anyone is interested in seeing some good films.

http//www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/guides/guide-display/-/HKEUEHZLXZ3/ref=cm_aya_av.sylt_sylt/002-7554915-4788816[]http//www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/guides/guide-display/-/HKEUEHZLXZ3/ref=cm_aya_av.sylt_sylt/002-7554915-4788816

Wolfeman

08-12-2005 09:52:19

[quote545513d37c="cyberpunk243"][quote545513d37c="theysayjump"]
So-so. I don't really watch them alot, but I don't not watch a film because of it's content. I'm not a Nazi, but Romper Stomper and American History X are great movies. Nor am I gay but Philadelpiha is a great movie.[/quote545513d37c]

I love American History X. It is one of my favorite movies of all-time. Here is a guide I did a little while back with some of my favorite movies in case anyone is interested in seeing some good films.

http//www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/guides/guide-display/-/HKEUEHZLXZ3/ref=cm_aya_av.sylt_sylt/002-7554915-4788816[]http//www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/guides/guide-display/-/HKEUEHZLXZ3/ref=cm_aya_av.sylt_sylt/002-7554915-4788816[/quote545513d37c]

I'm always very weary of someone that says American History X is their favorite movie...

Allen626

08-12-2005 10:10:01

[quotee20ff713a3="cyberpunk243"][quotee20ff713a3="theysayjump"]
So-so. I don't really watch them alot, but I don't not watch a film because of it's content. I'm not a Nazi, but Romper Stomper and American History X are great movies. Nor am I gay but Philadelpiha is a great movie.[/quotee20ff713a3]

I love American History X. It is one of my favorite movies of all-time. Here is a guide I did a little while back with some of my favorite movies in case anyone is interested in seeing some good films.

http//www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/guides/guide-display/-/HKEUEHZLXZ3/ref=cm_aya_av.sylt_sylt/002-7554915-4788816[]http//www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/guides/guide-display/-/HKEUEHZLXZ3/ref=cm_aya_av.sylt_sylt/002-7554915-4788816[/quotee20ff713a3]

Fight Club #1, Shawshank #2, and The Last Samurai should not have made it to the Top 15 it was not that good. In fact almost all I disagree with except American History X was really good.

cyberpunk243

08-12-2005 10:37:35

[quoteaf3f1d6a63="Allen626"][quoteaf3f1d6a63="cyberpunk243"][quoteaf3f1d6a63="theysayjump"]
So-so. I don't really watch them alot, but I don't not watch a film because of it's content. I'm not a Nazi, but Romper Stomper and American History X are great movies. Nor am I gay but Philadelpiha is a great movie.[/quoteaf3f1d6a63]

I love American History X. It is one of my favorite movies of all-time. Here is a guide I did a little while back with some of my favorite movies in case anyone is interested in seeing some good films.

http//www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/guides/guide-display/-/HKEUEHZLXZ3/ref=cm_aya_av.sylt_sylt/002-7554915-4788816[]http//www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/guides/guide-display/-/HKEUEHZLXZ3/ref=cm_aya_av.sylt_sylt/002-7554915-4788816[/quoteaf3f1d6a63]

Fight Club #1, Shawshank #2, and The Last Samurai should not have made it to the Top 15 it was not that good. In fact almost all I disagree with except American History X was really good.[/quoteaf3f1d6a63]

Well I guess it's a good thing it is my opinion. You got a list, Allen?

Narakukuku

08-12-2005 17:53:02

[quote1b6c68c0fe="shamash"]it's an american love story.[/quote1b6c68c0fe]

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