New Lost 3/1

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Peinecone

01-03-2006 18:58:34

What a good episode. I think they answered some cool questions while intoducing more. I don't agree with some people that think they need to answer all questions and different story lines before bringing in new ones. I think it adds suspense and keeps people watching.

I thought it was really cool they showed that the bearded man was part of the Darma project with Ethan. Also, what was the deal with Ecko talking toi that guy? Does he think he knows who he is?

justinag06

01-03-2006 19:46:41

shrug

I hate how every week I see the "previously on lost" I start to think its a rerun and leave the room though.

what with ABC showing episodes from the 1st season every other week

Godrockdj

01-03-2006 20:04:03

AWESOME episode. I was on the edge of my seat. Finally some answers! And Hatch #3! I have a lot more thoughts and favorite moments but they'll have to wait till morning.

Peinecone

01-03-2006 20:05:24

Did i miss anything in the first 5 minutes? My DVR didn't record for some reason and i didn't get home in time.

justinag06

01-03-2006 20:28:43

no

it was all claire untill the end there

Wolfeman

02-03-2006 04:23:29

THIS EPISODE ROCKED! #1 I love Claire. I think it gave some INSANE insight into who the others are. They aren't crazy tribal people, they are like scientists or something. Is the whole island an experiment? We got to see Alex. It was an awesome episode...

justinfreestuff

02-03-2006 09:44:45

maybe the plane crash was part of the experiment... P

kposse77

02-03-2006 09:51:51

[quote760d077f89="justinfreestuff"]maybe the plane crash was part of the experiment... P[/quote760d077f89]

I think so too. I read somewhere else that the planes in the mobile floating around the crib in the new hatch were Oceanic planes. Someone else also noted that one of them was in a nose dive (although I'm thinking that was some kind of coincidence).

justinag06

02-03-2006 10:14:32

peincone or keitha linked to a really good theory a couple lost posts ago , a lot of this would gel with that theory

so hold on...ethan was the guy in the video?

and the scientist shown talking to ethan is the same scruffy leader of the others? The one that kidnapped walt and made the agreement with jack and them

I noticed the fake beard just couldn't remember what that guy looked like.

also better question, the others obviously are the scientists, so they obviously know the camp has found the hatch, and is typing the numbers. Kinda changes things, maybe it is an experiment to trick them like Jack said. I wonder if the guy that set them up in it is an other too.

Brutus

02-03-2006 10:20:23

[quote7b1b9b0fbd="Peinecone"]Also, what was the deal with Ecko talking toi that guy? Does he think he knows who he is?[/quote7b1b9b0fbd]

He didn't know him. He just wanted somebody that he could confess to about the killing that he did.

EatChex89

02-03-2006 11:20:40

i just finished fire&water, so I have a few more to download

but it's getting kinda interesting, I think they need to stop with Charlie's heroin thing, it's getting old.

Godrockdj

02-03-2006 11:28:12

Ok, here are some thoughts

- Henry Gale - Still uncertain as to if he is an "other" or not. The writers certainly are penning him like one, but tricks have been pulled before. If he [id84f8714cb]is[/id84f8714cb] an Other, it would certainly make sense that he made up info out of nowhere. "I'm Henry Gale...I came in a balloon".... ? C'mon. And how can Locke the master of all random trivia not pick up these Wizard of Oz connections?!
- Locke - Was certainly being manipulated by Henry (more evidence to the Other side). But Locke flipping out at the end like that? Seems highly unlikely... is Locke just going along with it and manipulating the manipulator?
- Mr. Eko - The look on Henry's face when he walked into the room was [bd84f8714cb]priceless[/bd84f8714cb]! Like "OMG, is he going to kill me?!?" But I really liked the "confessional" and the ripping off of the beads
- [bd84f8714cb]Hatch #3[/bd84f8714cb] - Dharma initiative station, the medical one as denoted by the caduceus symbol. It appears that the Others we have seen so far might in fact be working for Dharma. Interesting. But how did this station fall into such disuse only a few weeks after Claire's experience there?! Did the docs abandon it and trash it on purpose? Did Michael find it and go rampaging through?
- Alex - Finally we get to see Danielle's daughter. She's a good person it seems. Awww

good2speed

02-03-2006 12:43:11

[quotecc6ee3c733="justinag06"]peincone or keitha linked to a really good theory a couple lost posts ago , a lot of this would gel with that theory

so hold on...ethan was the guy in the video?

and the scientist shown talking to ethan is the same scruffy leader of the others? The one that kidnapped walt and [bcc6ee3c733]made the agreement with jake[/colorcc6ee3c733][/bcc6ee3c733] and them

I noticed the fake beard just couldn't remember what that guy looked like.

also better question, the others obviously are the scientists, so they obviously know the camp has found the hatch, and is typing the numbers. Kinda changes things, maybe it is an experiment to trick them like Jack said. I wonder if the guy that set them up in it is an other too.[/quotecc6ee3c733]

Didnt know freepay is helping out the dharma scientists. Damn they probably have more than 90 days to finish as well. Might suck though since theyre likely to run out of referrals. P

About the episode. Why are there all these random extras walking around on the set. Why are they so unimportant on the island. They don't even communicate at all with the main cast. Does anyone find this odd. At least with Lord of the Flies type of movie it lookes as though all the kids were involved. Who are these other. Don't have to go through flashbacks but at least they should talk or be involved in some discussions. Seems like a big popularity contest on the island. How is no one having sex on the island.

Why didnt Kate follow Jimmy into the woods when he went to go get the guns. Would you go out into the jungle with just 1 gun. How about arming Claire and getting Russo a better weapon.

Why have they given up on a rescue?

They haven't even gone after Micheal nor even mention him.

Where is Sun's husband? And why does she need a pregnancy test?

Why are only Locke and Jack allowed to make major decisions on the island. Isn't Jimmy the one with the weapons. Why wouldn't Jimmy just kick everyone out of the hatch and use it as his own sleeping quarters?

Where do they go to the bathroom? How are they shaving?

Does anyone on the island have diabetes?

How has Hugo come to peace with the numbers. Wasn't he scared shitless about those numbers a few weeks ago?

What the hell happened to Charlie?

Will Said flip out when he finds out Locke released the other to anna lucia? Didnt he say that he felt no remorse for punishing the other and thus knew the origin of Henry?

Is Et6han ' the freak' infected?

What is infected actually mean? Is it a mental or physical illness?

MSX

02-03-2006 13:51:23

good2speed, I'll answer as many questions of yours as I can

Where do they go to the bathroom? How are they shaving?
- Maybe in the ocean, or they may have dug pits to create a 'storage' place for the waste, kind of like an outhouse. And the shaving part...there were razors and stuff in the suitcases and things, people shave on planes of course, so that's where they got the razors from (that's what one of the writers or producers said).

What the hell happened to Charlie?
- Not sure what you mean, but he's become and outcast on the island after taking Claire's baby down to the ocean and after the confrontation with Locke.

Will Said flip out when he finds out Locke released the other to anna lucia? Didnt he say that he felt no remorse for punishing the other and thus knew the origin of Henry?
- Not sure, but I didn't watch the previews twice, but are you sure Locke let's the guy go? If he does, I hope Sayid tracks him down and beats him some more ;)...I just have a feeling he's an Other, but who knows, it could be the writers playing tricks.

Why have they given up on a rescue?
- The survivors of the crash or the rescue teams? If you're talking about people rescuing them, you have to remember they were like 1,000 miles off course when they crashed.

Why are only Locke and Jack allowed to make major decisions on the island. -and- Why are there all these random extras walking around on the set.
- Not sure why, but it is odd that like 5 people run everything for everyone.

And that's about all I could answer.

I really like last night's episode...it's crazy that the Others are actually scientists (or it seems so) and that they faked being crazy wild people in tattered clothes.

Wolfeman

02-03-2006 15:41:40

I'm still not sure if Henry is an other or not but he sure is owning Locke's mind. I think he is an other sent in to get intel and break the group apart.

The biggest thing from last night was that the others are not really crazy jungle people but are faking it. INSANITY!

slease

02-03-2006 16:23:44

here's what i said in the other thread that i posted too late.

[quotef568259dbb]What did you all think. Best lost episode I've seen in a few months. I love zeke without his beard... and then we find out, hey, wait, the beard is fake and they are just dharma scientists dressing up like the others. but now we're pretty sure the sickness is for real right?

oh, and if you freeze frame on claires freaky epileptic visions you can see 48151623-42 as the name of the drug they are injecting claire with, was that the vaccine?

and locke is becoming a pussy. why is it every guy has become a pussy on this show? except for echo of course. i really wish he'd slit that henry guys throat.

thoughts?[/quotef568259dbb]

Wolfeman

02-03-2006 16:25:15

The 48151623-42 vaccine is the same one Desmond was injecting himself with too...

slease

02-03-2006 16:32:12

I wonder what the sickness is, it must have been really bad for rousseau to have killed her shipmates. I'm thinking 28 days later bad.

Wolfeman

02-03-2006 16:35:00

Maybe Rousseau was the one that got sick and killed all of them. Or the others had he so drugged they tricked her into thinking they were sick. OR MAYBE 48151623-42 isn't a vaccine but a mind control agent...

MSX

02-03-2006 16:40:59

Maybe, Wolfeman, maybe...but, here's 2 interesting facts about this ep from wikipedia

[quote68c711b668="Wikipedia.org"] - The injections given to Claire by Ethan were taken from a bottle marked with the code "CR 4-81516 23 42". This is the same code that appears on the bottles Desmond was seen taking an injection from in the episode "Man of Science, Man of Faith".

- The planes on the mobile in the nursery bear the Oceanic logo. The song that the mobile plays is "Catch a Falling Star" by Perry Como, the same song that Claire requested of the couple who were going to adopt her baby to sing to him as a lullaby. [/quote68c711b668]

Hmm...interesting indeed.

Wolfeman

02-03-2006 16:42:48

VERY INTERESTING! The planes having thr Oceanic logo just further lead the belief the crash was no accident and the others planned it...

MSX

02-03-2006 16:46:07

Here's the link to the Lost Season 2 page http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Episodes_of_Lost_%28Season_2%29

It has interesting trivia facts about most of the episodes, plus each summary almost always has more little facts, which you would never see by just watching it.

Also, if you DVR'd the ep (I did), if you play the part with the planes on the mobile, all of the planes are facing upwards, in a take-off sort of position, and one plane is pointing downwards, in a nose-dive kind of position, as if it were crashing...pretty crazy stuff.

Edit Here's a theory I thought up over dinner while talking to my brother, all original by me, but it makes a LOT of sense
I think the supposed other (Henry Gale) is actually an other, and he made up the story about crashing in a balloon. If you think back, Desmond said he was a on a trip around the world and that he crashed in a balloon. Hm, what a coincidence. I think the others found the balloon Desmond was in, and know what it looks like. I watched the previews again (DVR), and it shows that Henry is going to draw up a map...I figure he's just going to draw a map to the balloon that Desmond crashed in. Let me know what you guys think ;).

Peinecone

02-03-2006 17:43:17

I had not even remembered that Desmond had said he crashed in a ballon. That would totally make sense for Henry to use that as his cover.

Here is the link to a theory that justin was talking about. It fits in with this new episode, but is still pretty far out there.

http//www.4815162342.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7712

MSX

02-03-2006 17:59:19

Damn...well, I looked up the episode where Desmond tells his story and it says his boat crashed, so I was mistaken on that one...that would've made for one hell of a cover story for Henry though...oh well (.

Lost is such a great show, the writers sure do know how to piss me off, going to commercial breaks when things get juicy p.

crazyates

02-03-2006 18:04:27

wait hold up...who's desmond again?

Wolfeman

02-03-2006 18:06:00

The dude that was in the hatch when they blew it open...

crazyates

02-03-2006 18:11:06

oh gotcha now i remember

good2speed

02-03-2006 19:12:01

[quote8b1993885b="MSX"]Damn...well, I looked up the episode where Desmond tells his story and it says his boat crashed, so I was mistaken on that one...that would've made for one hell of a cover story for Henry though...oh well (.

Lost is such a great show, the writers sure do know how to piss me off, going to commercial breaks when things get juicy p.[/quote8b1993885b]

you really need a dvr