will anyone be able to top it off?

a friend told me that metallica's black album still sells about 1 million copies a year, thats amazing..not to mention nirvana and guns and roses. LEGENDSSSSSSS

just amazes me how the pop industry has taken over rock since y2k and yet no masterpiece has been made yet for this decade, and we're already 6 years into it!

its weird how everyone hates arrogant pricks such as kanye west for the things he does. Back in the 90s, guns and roses would just walk out and would be loved by all..times have changed. maybe this decade, coldplay will be remembered. Where 90s was nirvana etc, 80s metallica etc.

i don't know where i'm trying to get at here

are you high?

Thank god they put an end to Napster. They'd be hungry in the streets right now otherwise cry

TooL's Lateralus. There's your masterpiece. Game over!

Its called Limewire

i meant something that would sweep the nation, that won't even sweep the fart that poker unleashes

I believe that there was a couple of good albums already out. Such as Gorillaz.

We got the Britney Spears, Jessica Simpson, and all the other shitty pop bands that this decade will be known for too (.

i mean seriously, nirvana - nevermind has yet to be beat. I mean all bands are derived from nirvana and company..when will there be a new wave of music that will sweep the nation? DUN DUN DUN

well i mean there's always william hung shrug

G-UNIT!! lol.

[quote65f34c0922="akalic"]i mean seriously, nirvana - nevermind has yet to be beat. I mean all bands are derived from nirvana and company..when will there be a new wave of music that will sweep the nation? DUN DUN DUN[/quote65f34c0922]

No seriously, are you high? You're looking for a new genre - there's tons of em out there. Change your radio station.

I haven't been very inpressed with music in general as of late.

Wait a second... Did you just rank Coldplay along side Nirvana and "Black Album"-era Metallica? You have got to be joking.

[quotee2e6e5db3a="Allen626"]I believe that there was a couple of good albums already out. Such as Gorillaz.[/quotee2e6e5db3a]

feel good inc was an amazing album .. same with their original self titled album

Destiny's Child! The best! Call them shitty if you want but they ar the best girl group in history!

[quoted06c7b6cd8="ibtheib"]G-UNIT!! lol.[/quoted06c7b6cd8]
Fiffy Em and Dre have all done amazing.

[quote02936724d1="crazyates"]well i mean there's always william hung shrug[/quote02936724d1]

I saw him perform live, it was awesome!!!111

[quote108f771bf6="Nimh"]TooL's Lateralus. There's your masterpiece. Game over![/quote108f771bf6]
Amen!

[quote152df12cd3="ajasax"][quote152df12cd3="Nimh"]TooL's Lateralus. There's your masterpiece. Game over![/quote152df12cd3]
Amen![/quote152df12cd3]

Good to see I'm not alone out here. TooL's coming out with a new album spring 2006. Rumors suggest May 2nd. Keep your eyes peeled.

never heard, genre

Whats the question?

[quotea9e2156758="akalic"]never heard, genre[/quotea9e2156758]

im assuming u mean tool, in which case hard rock

[quote22898bb815="kyks17"][quote22898bb815="akalic"]never heard, genre[/quote22898bb815]

im assuming u mean tool, in which case hard rock[/quote22898bb815]

Not really, that's pretty general a term for a band like tool. The best term I've heard for it is psychedelic rock. I've also heard math metal, prog metal, and straight prog rock.

Tool is hard rock...

tool is for tools?
yes?
yes.

i've always considered tool progressive rock.

if you want to say progressive metal than fine, if you want to say hard rock then ok thats very general though.

and while I can see certain elements of psychodelic rock in their music, they are certainly not psychodelic rock,

they are just the most psychodelic band you know

Umm... All the bands you mentioned in your original post suck.

Eminem.

[quote58e5920467="Gigante"]Umm... All the bands you mentioned in your original post suck.

Eminem.[/quote58e5920467]


shock - Are you saying that Metallica sucks?

Yes Metallica are shite, as is Kanye West, Tool, Eminem and Nirvana.

Also, not "all bands are derived from nirvana and company". That's like saying the world started when Jesus was born.

[quotec184712ef1="theysayjump"]That's like saying the world started when Jesus was born.[/quotec184712ef1]
It wasn't?

Unfortunatly I think the biggest trend right now is pop rap. Although, I do like Eminem and Ludacris, I pretty much hate the rest.

I like Mariah Carrey only...

[quote603b7ca6b8="theysayjump"]Yes Metallica are shite, as is Kanye West, Tool, Eminem and Nirvana.

Also, not "all bands are derived from nirvana and company". That's like saying the world started when Jesus was born.[/quote603b7ca6b8]

Metallica's master of puppets pwns all kthx P

metallica was far and above better than nirvana, they were grunge and a lot of their fame derived when cobain died

[quote7ff2c6c4ef="theysayjump"]Yes Metallica are shite, as is Kanye West, Tool, Eminem and Nirvana.

Also, not "all bands are derived from nirvana and company". That's like saying the world started when Jesus was born.[/quote7ff2c6c4ef]Tool? That was a joke right?

Regardless of whether you hate Eminem or not, he is a lyrical mastermind. He's genius when it comes to wordplay; he will be remembered for tens of years.

Also, Fall Out Boy wtfpwnz0rz Metallica any day. lol Just kidding, I do like their music, but now it's played out (.

Panic! At The Disco --- these guys are awesome too, seriously, they're really good with lyrics.

[quote48ad2e86fb="MSX"]Regardless of whether you hate Eminem or not, he is a lyrical mastermind. He's genius when it comes to wordplay; he will be remembered for tens of years.

Also, Fall Out Boy wtfpwnz0rz Metallica any day. lol Just kidding, I do like their music, but now it's played out (.

Panic! At The Disco --- these guys are awesome too, seriously, they're really good with lyrics.[/quote48ad2e86fb]

eminem is the best lyricist who ever lived (yes, moreso than tupac). he will be remembered till his dying day, noone can deny that. just want everyone 2 remember. he never "officially" retired.

[quote2f3d9f405b="MSX"]Regardless of whether you hate Eminem or not, he is a lyrical mastermind. He's genius when it comes to wordplay; [b2f3d9f405b]he will be remembered for tens of years.[/b2f3d9f405b][/quote2f3d9f405b]

I have it on good word, in fact, that Eminem is to be enshrined alongside other modern luminaries in a forthcoming edition of VH1's [i2f3d9f405b]I Love the 00's![/i2f3d9f405b]

If only the legacies of all history's lyrical geniuses were so enduring...

[quote91ba7764b5="drummer_kew_03"]Unfortunatly I think the biggest trend right now is pop rap. Although, I do like Eminem and Ludacris, I pretty much hate the rest.[/quote91ba7764b5]
Any underground rapper who gets successful becomes popular. Thus "pop rap". So let me get this correct, you could like someone while they are underground but once they become mainstream you dont like them anymore?

[quoteeb38a1f761="MSX"]Regardless of whether you hate Eminem or not, he is a lyrical mastermind. He's genius when it comes to wordplay; he will be remembered for tens of years.

Also, Fall Out Boy wtfpwnz0rz Metallica any day. lol Just kidding, I do like their music, but now it's played out (.

Panic! At The Disco --- these guys are awesome too, seriously, they're really good with lyrics.[/quoteeb38a1f761]

P!ATD are cunts; their music is just like any other band..with the gayness

I knew a guy back when Creed was big in the pop scene who said that he hated them because they were making money while being a Christian band. He said that a real Christian band wouldn't be okay with making that much money to spread the message. I thought he was bullshitting, but he was serious.

So yeah, rappers can't keep it real if they make the bling bling... ) Then again, that is what the entire rap industry is made of. Let all those snot-nosed kids think they have a shot at the Escalade. I think that rap is one of the most genious marketing schemes in the last 30 years.

i wish i was more aware of the music in the 90s, i hate rap so much..

[quote0559e4b398="ibtheib"][quote0559e4b398="MSX"]Regardless of whether you hate Eminem or not, he is a lyrical mastermind. He's genius when it comes to wordplay; he will be remembered for tens of years.

Also, Fall Out Boy wtfpwnz0rz Metallica any day. lol Just kidding, I do like their music, but now it's played out (.

Panic! At The Disco --- these guys are awesome too, seriously, they're really good with lyrics.[/quote0559e4b398]

eminem is the best lyricist who ever lived (yes, moreso than tupac). he will be remembered till his dying day, noone can deny that. just want everyone 2 remember. he never "officially" retired.[/quote0559e4b398]

Wow, that's quite a statement. I'm assuming you only/have only listened to Rap/Hip Hop music then. I would say Eminem is a clever lyricist but he is by no means "the greatest who ever lived".

You heard of Lennon, McCartney, Dylan, Jagger, Richards, Bacharach, Wilson, Townshend, Mercury, Morrison, Bowie, Morrisey, Clapton, Reading, Yorke, Cash or Strummer?

Do a search for some of the greatest songwriters of all time, chances are you'd find every single one of those in nearly every "Top 100" list, and Eminem and TuPac in (probably) none.

[quote0559e4b398="Crynos"][quote0559e4b398="theysayjump"]Yes Metallica are shite, as is Kanye West, Tool, Eminem and Nirvana.

Also, not "all bands are derived from nirvana and company". That's like saying the world started when Jesus was born.[/quote0559e4b398]Tool? That was a joke right?[/quote0559e4b398]

No.

[quotea074983e9e="theysayjump"]Yes Metallica are shite, as is Kanye West, Tool, Eminem and Nirvana.

Also, not "all bands are derived from nirvana and company". That's like saying the world started when Jesus was born.[/quotea074983e9e]

i'm saying the majority of the bands are derived from nirvana and company; i mean i'm sure there are bands that are musically different, but do they make it to the big leagues? being played on radios and on TV etc.

I wanna be rich and famous, that'd be the life. or atleast rich.

[quotedac6b88047="akalic"]i'm saying the majority of the bands are derived from nirvana and company; i mean i'm sure there are bands that are musically different, but do they make it to the big leagues? being played on radios and on TV etc.[/quotedac6b88047]

Yeah, they were all Nirvana derived... that is until around 1997 when we had the likes of Backstreet Boys, Spice Girls, and Hanson... And I know even you can't say that is Nirvana derived.

Nirvana started grunge rock. The music these last few years and right now have been terrible. I mean anyone can make 'super hits' now. Have you guys heard of Hedley? THEY are derived from simple plan. P!ATD, derived from Fall out boy.

You can't leave out the punk writers either regardless if you like punk or not.

Lydon, Strummer, Cris, Matlock, Milo, Armstrong, Ness, Waits, Iggy,
knox, Robert Smith...And so many more. Why'll you may not have heard of them and there music might not be all over MTV, They posses lyrical skills that are out down by very few.

well i guess there are a few musical masterminds..one would be conor oberst from bright eyes.

[quote19ca357131="akalic"][quote19ca357131="theysayjump"]Yes Metallica are shite, as is Kanye West, Tool, Eminem and Nirvana.

Also, not "all bands are derived from nirvana and company". That's like saying the world started when Jesus was born.[/quote19ca357131]

i'm saying the majority of the bands are derived from nirvana and company; i mean i'm sure there are bands that are musically different, but do they make it to the big leagues? being played on radios and on TV etc.[/quote19ca357131]

There's not a single band, act or artist that you've heard on MTV who doesn't sound like, or remotely sound like Nirvana?

im gonna go off on a rant in regards to this entire thread

you say every band is influenced by nirvana because you watched all those stupid fucking MTV Top Videos of all time countdowns, or read some list from rolling stone. Or bought a puddle of mudd CD.

maybe 5 years ago you could say this, but most of the bands you hear today are influeneced by artists from the late 80's, and early 90's that never got any attention because everyone was running around screaming about nirvana.

Nirvanas influence is rarely heard in the music I listen to today. While I still respect them, Cobain was not the musical visonairy he was painted to be, nevermind was a good album, but it wasn't prophetic. It was just fresh, catchy as hell, and then oh he died so its the biggest album ever.


trust me your musical tastes will all mature when you get to college.

I used to think there would never be a time when I wouldn't be listening to green day and nirvana, and hoobastank and metallica, and weezez, and incubus, and all that shit.

but low and behold 6 years later, I never once bother to go back and listen to that shit.

So all you teenagers wait a bit, if you really like music so much you'll enjoy it much more once you grow up and experience new things.

nirvana was just an example, not 100% of the influences. Its just a friend was talking to me about them the other day so i thought i'd bring them to the table to talk about.

And obviously there are bands that sound like nirvana, but they are derived from them..

[quote038979203c="PsychoAU"]I knew a guy back when Creed was big in the pop scene who said that he hated them because they were making money while being a Christian band. He said that a real Christian band wouldn't be okay with making that much money to spread the message. I thought he was bullshitting, but he was serious.

So yeah, rappers can't keep it real if they make the bling bling... ) Then again, that is what the entire rap industry is made of. Let all those snot-nosed kids think they have a shot at the Escalade. I think that rap is one of the most genious marketing schemes in the last 30 years.[/quote038979203c]

Your friend was on crack with that statement ?

[quoteccae2c9299="Nimh"]TooL's Lateralus. There's your masterpiece. Game over![/quoteccae2c9299]

Aenima and Undertow > Lateralus