Any TV 101 lessons?
CoMpFrEaK
07-03-2006 21:17:58
So yea, i requested the $1000 check from EFG and am going to put it towards a TV. I know many people rave about the panasonic TV, but i'll also consider other options.
Current list of TVs
Panasonic 42" Plasma HD ($1826.97)
55" Sony LCD DCR ($1973.73)
Pioneer 43" Plasma ($2813.21)
From my prespective the pioneers look the nicest out of all the Plasmas.
Though my primary questions is whats the difference between
LCD
DLP
Plasma
And which one is better? (No gaming for me)
And last but probably not least but do you guys have any recommendations.
PS Price quoted above are employee discount prices.
compuguru
07-03-2006 21:42:39
Here's waht I've heard LCD is a great picture, but they are more expensive when you get to larger DLPs. DLPs have a good picture, but not as good as LCDs. Plasmas are thin, provide a good picture, but are exteremly expensive. That's just what I've head. shrug
fgr_admin
08-03-2006 01:51:11
If you play lots of games dont do the plasma. They tend to get burns rather quickly and shorten the life span.
hairyferry
08-03-2006 02:05:20
Plasma's do get burn screen. Although, the Samsung plasma that just came out, I believe Sears sells it, does not get screen burn, The new Technology they have. Plasma's pretty much have 0 glare and can be seen at any angle.
LCD is a great picture, more expensive than the Plasma, no scrren burn. Pretty much have 0 glare and can be seen at any angle.
DLP is the way I ended up going. It is a type of LCD picture so it is very very clear with a great picture. No screen burn, you can't hang it on the wall but it is still very thin. The bulbs last between 5-7 years but you can buy a new one for $200-$300 and the picture is like having a brand new TV again. Another great thing about the DLP is they come in HUGE sizes and do not cost as much as the flat panel LCD's. It does have a bit of a glare if you have alot of windows in the room but not like the old projection TV's. The DLP that I ended up getting was the Sony KDS-R60XBR1 1080p, rated 8.8 on Cnet, and was an Editors Choice.
fgr_admin
08-03-2006 02:24:49
[quotefde0626d36="hairyferry"]Plasma's do get burn screen. Although, the Samsung plasma that just came out, I believe Sears sells it, does not get screen burn, The new Technology they have. Plasma's pretty much have 0 glare and can be seen at any angle.
LCD is a great picture, more expensive than the Plasma, no scrren burn. Pretty much have 0 glare and can be seen at any angle.
DLP is the way I ended up going. It is a type of LCD picture so it is very very clear with a great picture. No screen burn, you can't hang it on the wall but it is still very thin. The bulbs last between 5-7 years but you can buy a new one for $200-$300 and the picture is like having a brand new TV again. Another great thing about the DLP is they come in HUGE sizes and do not cost as much as the flat panel LCD's. It does have a bit of a glare if you have alot of windows in the room but not like the old projection TV's. The DLP that I ended up getting was the Sony KDS-R60XBR1 1080p, rated 8.8 on Cnet, and was an Editors Choice.[/quotefde0626d36]
Yea thats what I meant to say, was just being lazy
nobody2000
08-03-2006 06:37:10
goto BJs, get a membership, and get their $1200 42" panasonic!
[quote4f7a2e7544="hairyferry"]Plasma's do get burn screen. Although, the Samsung plasma that just came out, I believe Sears sells it, does not get screen burn, The new Technology they have. Plasma's pretty much have 0 glare and can be seen at any angle.
LCD is a great picture, more expensive than the Plasma, no scrren burn. Pretty much have 0 glare and can be seen at any angle.
DLP is the way I ended up going. It is a type of LCD picture so it is very very clear with a great picture. No screen burn, you can't hang it on the wall but it is still very thin. The bulbs last between 5-7 years but you can buy a new one for $200-$300 and the picture is like having a brand new TV again. Another great thing about the DLP is they come in HUGE sizes and do not cost as much as the flat panel LCD's. It does have a bit of a glare if you have alot of windows in the room but not like the old projection TV's. The DLP that I ended up getting was the Sony KDS-R60XBR1 1080p, rated 8.8 on Cnet, and was an Editors Choice.[/quote4f7a2e7544]
There is no such thing as a plasma that CANNOT get burn-in. This being said, Panasonic is leading the forefront on the Ant-burnin technology. I can vouch for this, after 5 hours of playing NeedForSpeed on my new Panasonic I had a speed gauge burned right in the plasma!! I went through the menus and found that tbe burn-in features were not turned on. Turned them on, and the burn went right away.
If I were to ever choose a TV, because I am very $$ concious, I would hands down go with this TV http//www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes&vertical=ELEC&pid=05754645000&tab=spe#tab The new sony with 1080p comes at a stellar price and THE BEST picture on the market. Rear projection LCD is the way to go I think. I am not sure what he meant by his DLP being a type of LCD. Either its rear projection DLP or LCD.
Be careful with DLP, 20% of the population will notice a rainbow effect on your TV. You may be in the 80%, but I have friends that have a party or a big group movie and a couple people can not stand to watch the picture. It has to do with the refresh rate of 20% of peoples eyes catching up to the refresh of the TV.... good luck, I love my panasonic Plasma tho
CoMpFrEaK
08-03-2006 07:09:12
http//www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7461409&type=product&id=1125465419565
i like this one D
[quoteba8ccdb47c="CoMpFrEaK"]http//www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7461409&type=product&id=1125465419565
i like this one D[/quoteba8ccdb47c]
yes excellent choice. Remember with these TV's, its not just the quality of the screen, but the processor running them. A big part is streting a 4x3 pic ture to 16x9. If you don't spend the $$, expect to be disappointed here; this is somewhere where my Panasonic blows me away. REgular crappy cable looks fantastic on my plasma, I can hardly tell the distortion; I don't even have digital cable
CoMpFrEaK
08-03-2006 07:18:14
[quotec4166ecfe2="Adma"][quotec4166ecfe2="CoMpFrEaK"]http//www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7461409&type=product&id=1125465419565
i like this one D[/quotec4166ecfe2]
yes excellent choice. Remember with these TV's, its not just the quality of the screen, but the processor running them. A big part is streting a 4x3 pic ture to 16x9. If you don't spend the $$, expect to be disappointed here; this is somewhere where my Panasonic blows me away. REgular crappy cable looks fantastic on my plasma, I can hardly tell the distortion; I don't even have digital cable[/quotec4166ecfe2]
The one you posted isnt XBR, i think the one i posted is though P
[quotef7b898c3b8="CoMpFrEaK"][quotef7b898c3b8="Adma"][quotef7b898c3b8="CoMpFrEaK"]http//www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7461409&type=product&id=1125465419565
i like this one D[/quotef7b898c3b8]
yes excellent choice. Remember with these TV's, its not just the quality of the screen, but the processor running them. A big part is streting a 4x3 pic ture to 16x9. If you don't spend the $$, expect to be disappointed here; this is somewhere where my Panasonic blows me away. REgular crappy cable looks fantastic on my plasma, I can hardly tell the distortion; I don't even have digital cable[/quotef7b898c3b8]
The one you posted isnt XBR, i think the one i posted is though P[/quotef7b898c3b8]
well you found a better deal, thats why I posted the other; trying to keep $$ an issue here D
[quotec6d8d1b89d="CoMpFrEaK"]http//www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7461409&type=product&id=1125465419565
i like this one D[/quotec6d8d1b89d]
oh and here is a much better price, it is 2500.00 SHIPPED!! This is a very reputable site as well
http//www2.butterflyphoto.com/shop/productn.aspx?ref=pricegrabber&sku=kdsr50xbr1
CoMpFrEaK
08-03-2006 10:24:45
i get my friends best buy employees discount, so i'll probably get it there wink
Allen626
08-03-2006 13:38:33
http//www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=641444&page=1
SXRDs look like the way to go when I researched them. I may just wait for a true 1080p before I buy a TV though.
CoMpFrEaK
08-03-2006 13:48:27
[quote119c23938a="Allen626"]http//www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=641444&page=1
SXRDs look like the way to go when I researched them. I may just wait for a true 1080p before I buy a TV though.[/quote119c23938a]
Whats the difference between 1080i and 1080p? (Are there going to be higher ones in the near future?)
[quote2f81c3b018="CoMpFrEaK"][quote2f81c3b018="Allen626"]http//www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=641444&page=1
SXRDs look like the way to go when I researched them. I may just wait for a true 1080p before I buy a TV though.[/quote2f81c3b018]
Whats the difference between 1080i and 1080p? (Are there going to be higher ones in the near future?)[/quote2f81c3b018]
1080i is interlaced, you are only getting have your lines of resolution. 720p is superior to 1080i; 1080p is KING. You cant beat 1080p
CoMpFrEaK
08-03-2006 14:01:17
[quotef3ae670c0f="Adma"][quotef3ae670c0f="CoMpFrEaK"][quotef3ae670c0f="Allen626"]http//www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=641444&page=1
SXRDs look like the way to go when I researched them. I may just wait for a true 1080p before I buy a TV though.[/quotef3ae670c0f]
Whats the difference between 1080i and 1080p? (Are there going to be higher ones in the near future?)[/quotef3ae670c0f]
1080i is interlaced, you are only getting have your lines of resolution. 720p is superior to 1080i; 1080p is KING. You cant beat 1080p[/quotef3ae670c0f]
+karma for all your help
Though i thought 1080P was for ps3 and computers?
http//www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7461409&type=product&id=1125465419565
I guess thats the most ideal model for me...
720p superior to 1080i? shock
KyleRaker
08-03-2006 14:08:31
Yes since 1080i is interlaced it can be thought of as being equivalent to 540P since only 540 lines are showing at all times, whereas in 720P you have 720 lines showing at all times.
CoMpFrEaK
08-03-2006 14:12:11
[quoteb434b00852="KyleRaker"]Yes since 1080i is interlaced it can be thought of as being equivalent to 540P since only 540 lines are showing at all times, whereas in 720P you have 720 lines showing at all times.[/quoteb434b00852]
interesting
Well on bestbuys site it says the Sony is a
"1080p display provides the highest quality progressive-scan picture possible from a high-definition source"
On the bottom is says "Vertical Scanning Lines (Native Mode) 1080"
On cnet it says this TV supports 480p , 480i , 1080i , 720p
So what is it exactly? ?
RoBsTaMaCk
08-03-2006 14:50:43
KyleRaker
08-03-2006 15:42:19
It kinda comes down to preference, but technichally 1080i is a higher resolution and is there for crisper. However, since 720p is progressive it looks better in high motion scenes.
http//www.short-media.com/printcontent.php?print=r&id=245
Good link with about all you will want to know about choosing your HDTV.
Wolfeman
08-03-2006 17:22:32
Honestly I can't tell the difference between 720p and 1080i. If I were buying a TV right now I'd be looking for 1080p since that more and more used in the coming years...
CoMpFrEaK
08-03-2006 19:15:49
[quote4fb92112ba="Wolfeman"]Honestly I can't tell the difference between 720p and 1080i. If I were buying a TV right now I'd be looking for 1080p since that more and more used in the coming years...[/quote4fb92112ba]
Wow, so much to learn P
I'm seeing many sites say you shouldnt get one with a built in HD tuner, though the TVs i'm looking at all have that feature...should that be a concern?
Wolfeman
08-03-2006 19:51:46
Tuner built-in or not isn't as big a deal because most things are going to have a tuner already (360, DirecTV, Cable). Only thing you won't be able to get over the air HD Local without a tuner ?
doylnea
08-03-2006 20:10:42
minor threadjack
Between these two TVs, which would you choose - knowing I'm not really a gamer, except for TW2004, GT4 and maybe SOCOM II.

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[quoted668db9793="dolynea"]
minor threadjack
Between these two TVs, which would you choose - knowing I'm not really a gamer, except for TW2004, GT4 and maybe SOCOM II. [/quoted668db9793]
well, my personal opinion is Panasonic is the best....I have not heard to much about phillips.
[quoted668db9793="Compfreak"]
PostPosted Wed Mar 08, 2006 212 pm Post subject No Icon
KyleRaker wrote
Yes since 1080i is interlaced it can be thought of as being equivalent to 540P since only 540 lines are showing at all times, whereas in 720P you have 720 lines showing at all times.
interesting
Well on bestbuys site it says the Sony is a
"1080p display provides the highest quality progressive-scan picture possible from a high-definition source"
On the bottom is says "Vertical Scanning Lines (Native Mode) 1080"
On cnet it says this TV supports 480p , 480i , 1080i , 720p
So what is it exactly? Confused[/quoted668db9793]
Its native resolution is 1080p, however! It can handle a signal that is any one of those. FOr exampe, if you have a TV that's native resolution is 720p, it can "handle" 380p 480i 1080i 1080p. What it does is downconvert the image if it is larger than the native res (ie 1080i will be converted down to 720p) or upconverted from 480 i to 720p. This will look good dependent on the processor in the TV. I have an ENHANCED DEFINITION TV (lililiGASPlilili) ED isnt bad at all! Actually for me, its great. It down converts my HD stuff, such as my xbox360 from 1080i, or 720p to ED resolution; It looks great.
With lower resolutions, such as regular analog cable that I have, it upconverts to ED resolution. Believe it or not, regular TV, or even digital cable (excluding HD) will look better on an ED than an HD...why? It has less ground to upconvert. See, you get what you pay for. I think the vega processors should be great and will do a fine job upconverting bland old TV and look great with your HD crap. I recommend getting a TV with a NATIVE RESOLUTION of 1080p because more and more will be broadcast/developed in this resolution. [bd668db9793]make sure its native resolution is 1080p, not just that it can interpret those signals[/bd668db9793] my ED tv can watch 1080p signals, but that doesnt mean I am watching in 1080p...Get my drift?