Carlos Mancia.........Discuss!!
afro_wolff
16-04-2006 19:23:35
Ok...first off his shit isn't just offensive to some people, not funny whatsoever, and most of the time plain ass stupid but its seriously just gross.
Was just watch'n on MTV and he talks how great it was we blew the shit outa japan, killed millions of middle easterns, and all this other shit...
What do you guys think of this guy? I honestly can't understand how he draw's such an audience and why mtv hasn't booted his shit yet...
theysayjump
16-04-2006 19:31:33
I think I've watched one of his shows, about half way through and stopped. he's not even funny and he probably has someone else (9 year old) write his stuff.
People think because he's "outrageous" he's funny.
tylerc
16-04-2006 19:42:22
See, it's ok that he says it because he's a minority. If a white guy said the stuff he said, his show would get pulled off the air real fucking quick.
afro_wolff
16-04-2006 19:47:13
[quote660f974389="tylerc"]See, it's ok that he says it because he's a minority. If a white guy said the stuff he said, his show would get pulled off the air real fucking quick.[/quote660f974389]
That or the damn dude would get off'd
Th3Great1
16-04-2006 19:54:26
NOT FUNNY.....PERIOD
PsychoAU
16-04-2006 20:00:41
He is just the hispanic version of Chappelle.
tylerc
16-04-2006 20:03:04
Wrong.
If he was the Hispanic version of Chappelle, he would be funny.
PsychoAU
16-04-2006 20:04:42
they're both dumbasses. so I stand by what I said.
Nassty
16-04-2006 20:12:13
chapelle is real funny....mencia is pretty funny but some of the shit is just stupid...i prob think that tho cuz im an ass 2
i blame history
16-04-2006 20:24:00
i have been told that mencia is not mexican, but rather part honduran (hondurian? i have no diea. from honduras. there.), part hungarian. confirm, anyone?
toiletpaper55
16-04-2006 20:26:41
isnt he on commedy central not mtv?
Tholek
16-04-2006 21:06:21
If you're criticizing him for the [if0fb01dc3b]type[/if0fb01dc3b] of comedy he does, then you're off base. Just because some are overly sensitive, doesn't mean something's not funny. Sadly, Chappelle lost sight of that.
If you hate Mencia because he's a thief, then I'm with you. He's hated by many other comics for lifting material. His most vocal critic, Fear Factor's Joe Rogan, uses every opportunity to bash the guy. Mostly, with legit gripes. Both have attacked eachother on O&A, and it was some of the best radio I ever heard.
I have found Mencia funny, but I've lost all respect for the guy. He's lucky to have the gig he has
mnx12
16-04-2006 21:13:42
Ive only watched his show for a few minutes when he was making fun of that Kanye West and Jamie Fox music video, and that was the funniest thing I have ever seen. Part of it may be because I hate Kanye West shrug
some of his stuff is funny...
but at the same time he kinda makes fun of what he is (flaming faggot)
JOSHBOX
16-04-2006 21:44:52
I think hes pretty funny most of the time but I get annoyed when he uses the word beaner so much. Sounds strange, especially since im white but its kind of irritating when somone uses their own races racial slur a lot, it seems like they shouldnt be promoting the kind of harsh attitudes and thoughts they are subjected to. But thats just me, I dont really get offended by his stuff I just find that annoying sometimes.
Allen626
16-04-2006 22:14:38
He builds his show off offending other people. I just don't watch nor like the parts that are ridiculusly racist and things you just really shouldn't think. Some of it is ok though, but by no means the best.
turpentinedreams
16-04-2006 22:31:58
he sucks
Tholek
16-04-2006 22:34:03
He's really run the term "beaner" into the ground. I no longer think of it as a slur, but his catchphrase. I'd bet most feel that way now.
[quotee0dcef5520="Allen626"]He builds his show off offending other people. I just don't watch nor like the parts that are ridiculusly racist and things you just really shouldn't think. Some of it is ok though, but by no means the best.[/quotee0dcef5520]
Laughing at things you "shouldn't" doesn't make you a bad person. I have laughed at insensitive jokes, but I'm not racist or a pedophile. As for Mencia, I don't find him funny anymore, but comedians like Chappelle and Jim Norton are hilarious. (Well, Chappelle [ie0dcef5520]was[/ie0dcef5520])
theysayjump
16-04-2006 22:43:51
The thing about Mencia is that it doesn't even come across that he actually believes in what he saying. He's only saying it because he's been told to or is being paid to, and that's enough to turn me off at least.
There's no appeal to watching a comedian who doesn't even believe in what he's saying. When he's trying to come off as himself and not some character where it's accepted or he's trying to make a point.
Tholek, I know you like alot of British TV so you may like Chris Morris if you haven't heard of him already. Very funny and intelligent, very satirical and very original. He's so serious and dead-pan that I really don't know if he is serious or not in what he does/did.
http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Morris_%28satirist%29
http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brass_Eye#2001_paedophilia_special
halfbreed
16-04-2006 22:59:14
I think he's fucking hilarious
JordanE
16-04-2006 23:01:32
Some of his stuff is funny (ie very little of it) but for the most part he is way to racist for my taste. I'm more of a seinfeld kind of person stuff thats actually funny.
syriandoode
16-04-2006 23:07:24
George Carlin did a show few weeks ago, couldnt stop laughing, he made fun of suicide and a whole bunch of dark stuff.
Wolfeman
16-04-2006 23:21:03
He doesn't offended me at all (I'm very hard to offend) but I just don't find him funny. I think his jokes are lame and predictable. Chappelle was a million times better than him shrug
Tholek
16-04-2006 23:50:22
[quote862079635a="theysayjump"]Tholek, I know you like alot of British TV so you may like Chris Morris if you haven't heard of him already. Very funny and intelligent, very satirical and very original. He's so serious and dead-pan that I really don't know if he is serious or not in what he does/did.
http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Morris_%28satirist%29
http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brass_Eye#2001_paedophilia_special[/quote862079635a]
Brass Eye has been recommended to me on several occasions, but I haven't yet caught it. (Much to my regret)
Thanks for reminding me to seek it out. )
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ghondi
17-04-2006 07:16:04
I find some of the things he says funny and true, but I don't think Carlos should be saying it because as a few of you said, he doesn't believe in what he says.
A few good comidians are Dane Cook, and George Carlin.
kevxross
17-04-2006 07:25:48
Wow, you're a bunch of oversensitive pussies! (Only made that remark to try to get some tears out of you P)
Seriously, he's goofy and awkward as hell, and not that funny, but why would you let anything he says offend you? All he does is grab those common stereotypes about races that EVERYONE knows of (and don't you fucking lie, you know the stereotypes) and turns them into lame jokes about current events. Get over it.
In one of his standup routines he said something along the lines of "If you have a joke that you can't say straight to the face of who it makes fun of, you shouldn't tell that joke ANYWHERE." He's right. He has all different races sitting right in his audience, and obviously seeing the public broadcast. They laugh along with him, so get off your high horse and stop crying.
That's to the ones saying it offends them. To those who just don't think he's very funny; I'm right there with you.. his material is usually pretty weak.
Gigante
17-04-2006 07:41:31
You guys have only seen what he does on TV and his clips and such. You really need to see him live. He kicks ass there.
ghondi
17-04-2006 07:42:15
[quote5bc1c2dbae="kevxross"]"If you have a joke that you can't say straight to the face of who it makes fun of, you shouldn't tell that joke ANYWHERE." [/quote5bc1c2dbae]
So damned true. If your not comfortable making fun of...lets say black people, then you have no right to make fun of them when they aren't around.
Hell, I make fun of everyone,lol.....including calling my self a cracker....racists only have power if these stupid little words offend people...if people would just stop being offended...racism would soon come to a fall.
good2speed
17-04-2006 07:52:17
i could care less either way but I will point out that a lot of you are over sensitive. If you cant laugh at yourselkf then your taking life a little too seriously.
Id be upset if he made fun of everyone but not spics. JK. Jk
dont want no shit from any of you beaners.
I enjoy his jokes even though some of them may be corny.
IU like his dud duh dah phrase for retarded people. Ive started using it myself
and its CARLOS MENCIA people
http//www.carlosmencia.com/
theysayjump
17-04-2006 09:37:30
If I watched his shows, he wouldn't offend me for the simple fact that I mentioned above, he's not believable. He's saying it because he's been paid a shitload to.
Comedians who are just plain racist/xenophobic/sexist etc, and base their entire act around that are the ones who offend me because they're saying what they actually believe in.
It's basically stand-up hatred.
kevxross
17-04-2006 09:52:40
[quote8fffe2effb="theysayjump"]If I watched his shows, he wouldn't offend me for the simple fact that I mentioned above, he's not believable. He's saying it because he's been paid a shitload to.
Comedians who are just plain racist/xenophobic/sexist etc, and base their entire act around that are the ones who offend me because they're saying what they actually believe in.
It's basically stand-up hatred.[/quote8fffe2effb]
I don't quite get what you're saying, but since you said yourself you don't watch his shows I guess it makes sense. Of course he "doesn't believe what he's saying" because he's using typical stereotypes in such an obvious way. He's actually more making fun of the stereotypes themselves and saying racism is stupid and pointless and getting offended by it is even more retarded.
theysayjump
17-04-2006 09:57:35
I'm saying that people who actually believe in what they're saying (racist stand-up comedians etc) offend me because it's real and it's unnecessary, whereas Carlos Mencia is just saying it to get money/ratings or to be famous so there's nothing to be offended by.
I've seen his show once and I've seen quite a few previews of his stuff but I don't think he's said anything that made me laugh yet. There's just no conviction in him.
kevxross
17-04-2006 10:10:42
[quote596d9a73f6="theysayjump"]I'm saying that people who actually believe in what they're saying (racist stand-up comedians etc) offend me because it's real and it's unnecessary, whereas Carlos Mencia is just saying it to get money/ratings or to be famous so there's nothing to be offended by.
I've seen his show once and I've seen quite a few previews of his stuff but I don't think he's said anything that made me laugh yet. There's just no conviction in him.[/quote596d9a73f6]
I understood that first part, you don't like genuine racists. I don't think you're alone there..
I don't think you quite get Mencia and that's fine. I'll agree with you that he's not that funny, but his whole idea is what I said before. If you'd seen some of his earlier stand-up, before he ever had his own show or anything I think you'd understand. I remember a few where he actually gets serious and kinda emotional at the end. He doesn't like racism, or segregation and that's why he tells the jokes he tells. By appearing racist to every race/culture/ethnicity on the planet he's doing 2 things pointing out how dumb racism is, and bringing all the races together by saying none is better than the other; I'm going to make fun of all of them.
This still doesn't mean he's funny, because he's not really. I'm just saying he's not some blind racist who's telling jokes passed on by racist Comedy Central execs in exchange for the bling.
theysayjump
17-04-2006 10:15:17
In other words, he's an unfunny South Park.
kevxross
17-04-2006 10:25:19
[quote835cbdc956="theysayjump"]In other words, he's an unfunny South Park.[/quote835cbdc956]
Haha, that's actually still giving him too much credit. He's not nearly as whitty or intelligent as South Park and he only really has one major message at most. ;)
He shouldn't actually have his own show, but Chappelle decided to go insane and Comedy Central needed to fill the void.
Gigante
17-04-2006 10:47:40
I find Mencia hilarious, and the show i went to was amazing (like 3hrs long), not one of his crap tv ones. I don't like South Park. I guess just two different kinds of comedy. South Park bores me.
Wolfeman
17-04-2006 11:29:25
I've seen his standup (not live) and I tried to watch his show again last night because of this thread and he just isn't funny IMO. His jokes are just not good, they are predictable and he tires so hard to be "edgy". There are a lot of "offensive" comics I really like to. I'd rather watch Mr. Show reruns than his show, now thats a good show. But to each his own, some people think Tim Allen and Jay Leno are funny shrug
Tholek
17-04-2006 14:45:57
[quotea97a4c6369="ghondi"]A few good comidians are Dane Cook, and George Carlin.[/quotea97a4c6369]
Carlin lost his edge awhile ago. ( Cook is a bit too mainstream now. He's still funny, but I'm worried he'll go that way too.
Wolfeman
17-04-2006 14:47:56
[quotedb00cc2fa5="Tholek"][quotedb00cc2fa5="ghondi"]A few good comidians are Dane Cook, and George Carlin.[/quotedb00cc2fa5]
Carlin lost his edge awhile ago. ( Cook is a bit too mainstream now. He's still funny, but I'm worried he'll go that way too.[/quotedb00cc2fa5]
I love Dane Cook. He is awesome live. David Cross and Zach Galifianakis are my 2 favorite stand up comedians right now...
killerman
17-04-2006 14:56:04
carlos' first episode of mind of mencia was the funniest
it went downhill from there <
RM200
17-04-2006 15:10:44
yall dont know where he comes from because i fully understand his jokes and find him really funny. unlike dane cook i fine him corny.
Tholek
17-04-2006 15:28:50
Here's a great site for those into this type of comedy
http//www.cringehumor.net
Most interesting are these
http//www.cringehumor.net/hacks/
http//www.cringehumor.net/comedians/