Wow....I think I feel sick almost....

As many of you know, right now I live with my girlfriend at her mom's house while we look for a rent house to move into. Yesterday my girlfriend's little brother was playing with some black kids in the neighborhood. They live in a rich neighborhood, where it is mostly rich white people, and these black people are one of only two black families in this area.

They used to come over all the time, play basketball, get dirty, just do what normal kids do. And today his mom just told him he can not have those black kids over, and he can not go play with them. This really struck a nerve with me. When I was growing up, my father was very racist - but I still hung out with the black kids in my neighborhood because color didn't matter, we all liked to play basketball and joke around.

Can a parent just say, do not hang out with a kid because he is a different color? Her reason was that "they are loud" "drink all the cokes" and "I do not know their parents'. So what? Do you know any of the parents of the kids at school he hangs out with? No. Is your child louder than most 10 year olds I know? Yes. And isn't it customary if you are playing at my house, it is my job to get you something to drink because you are thirsty from playing outside all day? Yes.

This whole thing just makes me mad, but of course I can not say anything. All I can do is teach my son that color doesn't matter, and he can hang out with whoever he wants to, granted that he is a good person and does not use drugs or has parents who do drugs or are convicted felons.

aren't you the guy who said some racist crap just a few weeks ago?

I forget what it was exactly since you edited the post but I remember myself and a few other people calling you out for it.

can you smell the ironing? )

Yeah, I get pissed off. I was hanging out with my friend once, and he dragged his friend along too, he was black, we were riding our bikes. I have nothing against him at all. And then my mom said he wasn't allowed in the house, and I wasn't allowed to get him a drink. I felt like shit. (

wow do you guys live with Klan members or something?

terrible. wouldn't let someone in your house because they're black?

that's mind blowing. And in NJ too? that's revolting

I said something racist, but it was not meant to come out like it did. And yes, who is ironing? Must be those undersexed boys again.....

Yeah, I was like what the hell is wrong with you mom. She's like, "I don't like the looks of him." Whatever. Nothing I can do about it, but I'm not racist. I don't see why it matters what color, race, ethnicity, gender, sexual preference, or learning abilities/disabilities someone has. People need to chill with this racism crap. It really pissed me off.

It surprises me how much racism still exists, even in younger generations who should have absolutely no prejudices. It does make me sick in fact...I hate it.

This country has a far way to go...

I figured it was only my highschool that was racist I go to collegue for my first year and what? More racism only worse owell it doesn't really bother me.

[quote3c6db9bb69="TryinToGetPaid"]This whole thing just makes me mad, but of course I can not say anything. [/quote3c6db9bb69]

Sure you can. I know I would.

PostalService - where do you go to college?

I guess i'm just used to being in cities. I've always been in or around big cities as far as living for lengths of time.

I guess racism prevails out in the midwest and such. I'm just not used to it at all...it didn't exist in my HS. Maybe a small small sect of kids but no one liked them, they were just bitter unintelligent losers who are going nowhere in life. I guess those kind of people need something to hate aside from themselves.

I think that's true for all racism and hate. It exists in those who need something to hate because they don't like themselves. People that are dumb or even meek often resort to racism.

You can't be racist in my part of NJ. One of the most diverse areas ever! I mean, some stereotypes do breathe some truth but people should be judged on an individual level.

Ohio State

[quotee299e11294="Twon"][quotee299e11294="TryinToGetPaid"]This whole thing just makes me mad, but of course I can not say anything. [/quotee299e11294]

Sure you can. I know I would.[/quotee299e11294]

You realize he lives under his gf's mom's house, and therefore [ie299e11294]her rules[/ie299e11294].

The sad truth about racism is that it will always be around. No matter how much we believe it to be wrong or immoral there will always be those who believe it or are atleast influenced by it.

[quote9d790dd991="nytrate"]PostalService - where do you go to college?[/quote9d790dd991]

"She" goes to the school of previously banned douchebags.

[quote677a394494="theysayjump"][quote677a394494="nytrate"]PostalService - where do you go to college?[/quote677a394494]

"She" goes to the school of previously banned douchebags.[/quote677a394494]

Zing!

Craziness. It's funny, I grew up in Victoria, BC, very British, VERY white place, and yet very little racism. Then a couple of years back I moved to Vancouver, which has a very high Asian and East Indian population (in my neighbourhood I am a minority) and the racism here is much worse. For me, I'm just happy that there's lots of cool ethnic food around (and I don't mean that metrosexual new age yuppie FOOZSHUN stuff).

Wow - great words of wisdom from you youngins. I am impressed. Keep spreading the word. And I do think the USA is getting better with racism in most parts. Sure there are still some bad spots but not as severe or as common as 50 years ago. Hell even 25 years ago.

How old are the kids? When I was a kid(10ish) my parents didn't let me play with kids whose parents they didn't know either, although I had several black friends I hung out with, so I know it wasn't a racist thing(hell, I even have a black cousin).

Keep in mind, it might not be a racially motivated rule. Thats one thing I hate nowadays, alot of people turn a situation into a racist situation even though it might not necesarily be.

[quote1ae2179f7e="Excel"]How old are the kids? When I was a kid(10ish) my parents didn't let me play with kids whose parents they didn't know either, although I had several black friends I hung out with, so I know it wasn't a racist thing(hell, I even have a black cousin).

Keep in mind, it might not be a racially motivated rule. Thats one thing I hate nowadays, alot of people turn a situation into a racist situation even though it might not necesarily be.[/quote1ae2179f7e]
I was thinking the same. When my kids were young and lived at home, we also restricted who they hung out with, and it had nothing to do with race. They had friends of all races that we trusted and liked, and in fact the worst I can think of were white. Being a parent does not necessarily mean being fair to everyone. Your first concern is your child(ren), not being politically correct.

Not saying that is or isn't the case here, I'm just commenting from a parent's perspective. A lot of things we do, our kids don't understand. Even when they become adults, until they have their own kids, they don't understand a lot of things about being a parent. Now that my oldest two have kids of their own, they are just now beginning to "get" some things, and are quick to tell us how they now understand a lot things we said/did with them. )

does anyone have a problem with the title of the thread. Is he sick or not. Or is he almost sick? Please tell us since you seem to be the one offended by the percieved racist behavior of your mother in law.

So tell us

Are you sick?
are you almsot sick?
are you not sick at all but felt the title would be catchy?

help me out here which one is it?

I am sick....all this pollen...

Dmorris I understand what you are saying, but he goes over to people's houses that she doesn't even know and .... tada.... they are all white.

I'm white, but my girlfriend of 4+ years is black. My parents are fine with it now, but the first time my father heard I was dating a black girl (about 9th grade)...he sat me down and said something along the lines of "it's ok to be friends with them...but nothing more." My mother scolded him and I honestly don't think he feels that way anymore...he just grew up in a different environment. Since then, he's always been loving, kind, and polite to my girlfriend.

Her and I still get "looks" from time to time, but I don't let it get to me...all I know is that WE are happy, and if someone is limiting him or herself to such a simple-minded "ideal"...I feel sorry for them. It won't be long before racial barriers are lost "in the mix."

Nonetheless, some of you don't realize that it's not just whites who are racist..."reverse" racism happens just as often...it just depends on where you live. A few weeks ago my girlfriend and I, my buddy and his wife (also an interracial couple) were at a bowling alley...3 little (probably 16ish) black/hispanic boys walk in...stop in their tracks...and start saying "interracial interracial interracial." I didn't hear it...but my buddy's wife did...and it's funny, because that sort of attitude generally comes from jealousy...so they turn it into a race issue.

most of the racism now a days comes from the parents who feed their kids into thinking and acting that way. if it werent for the parents, id be willing to bet 90% of the kids wouldnt know the difference because we live in an equal america in today's society. its our parents generation that grew up at a time when blacks still werent considered equal and racism was an ok thing to do, this is after learning from their parents (our grandparents) who grew up when blacks had zero rights. its a pattern that has gradually gotten better over the years as society, the government, etc has made everyone legally and rightfully equal. racism seemed to come from fear a lot of the time. as more and more people work and live among other ethnicities in this country, people realize that there really isnt anything to fear, unlike what they were taught by their parents. despite all of this, there are still some things out there that do in fact provoke racism. things like affirmative action, the rapper stereotype, slang language people dont like, these all lead to present day racism as these are some of the common issues among races.

personally speaking ive experienced far more racism from black people than i have from white people. I'll save the details for another thread....
not saying categorically one race is more racist than the other just my personal experience over the years

Heh, racism wouldn't just go away if children didn't learn it from their parents. People are racist for all sorts of reasons, whether it's because of the way they were raised or experiences they've had that led them to form those prejudices on their own—whether they meant to or not, and whether they're aware of it or not.

From the way that ive been educated and what ive learned growing up, racism has a lot to do with your culture, what time period that you grow up in, and you SES (Social Economic Status).

SES has a lot to do with it more than anything. Racism is not ever going to become extinct. There are also racism towards other ppl growing around us. For my generation, I feel that Muslims are at the top of my generation, blacks at the top of my parents/grandparents and japanese at the top of my grandparents and greatgrandparents generations.

[quotedac7aeab8c="TriforceXHacks"]You can't be racist in my part of NJ. One of the most diverse areas ever! I mean, some stereotypes do breathe some truth but people should be judged on an individual level.[/quotedac7aeab8c]
What part? I know in my high school there was just a handful of blacks, probably no more than 20 in the whole school. Now in college, it's probably 40-50% black.

[quotee073760ca7="FreeOffersNow"]I'm white, but my girlfriend of 4+ years is black. My parents are fine with it now, but the first time my father heard I was dating a black girl (about 9th grade)...he sat me down and said something along the lines of "i[be073760ca7]t's ok to be friends with them...but nothing more." [/be073760ca7]My mother scolded him and I honestly don't think he feels that way anymore...he just grew up in a different environment. Since then, he's always been loving, kind, and polite to my girlfriend.

Her and I still get "looks" from time to time, but I don't let it get to me...all I know is that WE are happy, and if someone is limiting him or herself to such a simple-minded "ideal"...I feel sorry for them. It won't be long before racial barriers are lost "in the mix."

Nonetheless, some of you don't realize that it's not just whites who are racist..."reverse" racism happens just as often...it just depends on where you live. A few weeks ago my girlfriend and I, my buddy and his wife (also an interracial couple) were at a bowling alley...3 little (probably 16ish) black/hispanic boys walk in...stop in their tracks...and start saying "interracial interracial interracial." I didn't hear it...but my buddy's wife did...and it's funny, because that sort of attitude generally comes from jealousy...so they turn it into a race issue.[/quotee073760ca7]

lmao.....omgz..LOL...my mom said the same thing to me when i went out with this white girl LOL...and they are in no way racist really

I went to college at the University of South Alabama, in Mobile, AL. My best friend came to be the black roommate of a girl I dated for awhile. She and I used to walk around the mall in Mobile together holding hands, just for kicks and to get a rise out of folks. In hindsight it was probably foolish, because that was over 20 years ago and some rednecks back them took that crap seriously enough to beat you in the parking lot over it, but we were young and fearless then. Or stupid. )

My wife of 18+ years is Mexican. Some members of my family weren't crazy about her either, and I basically "disowned" one aunt over it. However everybody else very quickly grew to love my wife and stepkids. Looking back, I can't really blame them because at the time it was a cultural thing -- it was all they knew. Yeah, they would read & hear about civil rights and equality, and I know as good people they knew equality was right, but it's such an ingrained cultural legacy with some people that it's difficult for them to adapt unless they're forced into facing the issue, like they were with my wife. Now they're much more enlightened and open to the idea.

I live in Grosse Pointe, an almost all-white wealthy suburb that's right next to Detroit, a mostly black city and a case study in urban blight.

It is possible to drive past large well maintained houses with hummers parked in the driveway one minute and move on to burnt out and boarded up houses with lawns filled with weeds 5 minutes later. These areas are either segregated by a strip mall, a high chainlink fence with razor wire, or a canal (which was built for this purpose; it doesnt really go anywhere).

While the racial situation is getting better (there aren't any riots anymore and the infamous "points" system for that blocked many black families from living in our community has been done away with), there definitely are cases where people's prejudices have surfaced.

My friend told me a story about how one day his mom was driving and saw a black dude with some boxes on the side of the road. Coming from a community where most of the young black males one sees during the day are either picking up the garbage or driving a mail truck, she assumed the worst and called 911 on her cell phone. That 911 call wasn't the first the police got about the man. They told her that he was putting up fliers and they had recieved several calls about him.

Working as a lifeguard at a county club during the summer, seeing anybody who is not white is a rarity. Once, when a couple brought a black friend along with them to lie in sun, a pair of aging ladies came up to the desk and demanded that they be charged for bringing a guest. While there is a fee for bringing a guest to the pool, it was appalling to see how quickly these two hags saw her and associated her skin color with a non-member status. I would have confronted them for it (and possibly risked termination) but they weren't directly stating the cause for their suspicion and I decided to hold my toungue, doing my best to question their motives.

There is also a disturbing re-emergence of the n-word at my high school. This is mostly among underclassmen who have watched the Chappelle Show and only picked up racial stereotypes, not the fact that Dave Chappelle was making fun of them. The few black kids stick mostly to themselves and a certain level of ingorance and prejudice exists among my more low-brow classmates.

All in all, stuff like this is stupid and I'm very much looking foward to college next year as a way to escape a lot of it. roll

you're from Grosse Pointe? Was the movie shot there?

The opening credits at least. . . -) Most of it wasn't actually shot here.

I can't claim to have seen the movie, though.

My parents were never and never have been racist. I'm glad they raised me like this, I cannot understand racist people and racial situations. I live in such a white neighborhood, but I'm friends with so many black, spanish, and every other minority people, as well as a ton of white people. I just think people need to taught early that everyone is just as bad as the next person on the inside-regardless of color, religion, gender, sexual preference, body type, we are all douche bags at heart.

It's somewhat amusing, I suppose, hear all these stories about parents telling their kids who they can and can't hang out with based on race. I dated a Hispanic girl for over a year and a half, and my parents couldn't have given two shits what her background was. Actually, the fact that she spoke Spanish was helpful to us on many occasions. Interesting to note that they didn't like the girl I dated before her, who was white (although she was a bitch). Which is ultimately how it should be.

[quote6aff7e8fe1="FreeOffersNow"]
Nonetheless, some of you don't realize that it's not just whites who are racist...[b6aff7e8fe1]"reverse" racism happens just as often[/b6aff7e8fe1]...it just depends on where you live. A few weeks ago my girlfriend and I, my buddy and his wife (also an interracial couple) were at a bowling alley...3 little (probably 16ish) black/hispanic boys walk in...stop in their tracks...and start saying "interracial interracial interracial." I didn't hear it...but my buddy's wife did...and it's funny, because that sort of attitude generally comes from jealousy...so they turn it into a race issue.[/quote6aff7e8fe1]

be quiet you honky white boy there is no such thing as reverse racism. Cracker ass cracker. wink

oh boy my parents are so racist. Its funny too me because they just act racist at home but are nice to everyone they meet and would never hurt a soul. My mom talks crap about blacks and muslims. Its kind of funny because it is such blatant misinformation or over sterotypical. Like you cant trust blacks because they steal and to never eat at a muslims persons house because their dirty. I love my mom to death but she is so 3rd world misinformed.

reverse racism, the term literally makes no sense, I know what it means, but, if you look at it word for word, it just means that the racism is going backwards, which, from a historical aspect, is against white people, but racism is, putting one person or group down based on their race or ethnicity...so, the reverse of that is, putting them up based on their race? Idk

I got called a cracker once by a black girl in her car. We were playing basketball and her car was making all this kind of noise, so we all looked to see what it was. And in this car this tiny black girl shrieks "What yall lookin' at? Crackas!" We cried we laughed so hard....

[quote96c032f4a8="Tsmith10803"]reverse racism, the term literally makes no sense, I know what it means, but, if you look at it word for word, it just means that the racism is going backwards, which, from a historical aspect, is against white people, but racism is, putting one person or group down based on their race or ethnicity...so, the reverse of that is, putting them up based on their race? Idk[/quote96c032f4a8]

i read this somewhere becuase i did a report on this subject a while ago. technically reverse racism is not real. racism is racism, whether it is blacks against whites, whites against blacks, etc. there is no reverses, its racism either way. its just a technicality issue, everyone knows what its supposed to mean.

[quoteadaf484bc4="JJPRO11"][quoteadaf484bc4="Tsmith10803"]reverse racism, the term literally makes no sense, I know what it means, but, if you look at it word for word, it just means that the racism is going backwards, which, from a historical aspect, is against white people, but racism is, putting one person or group down based on their race or ethnicity...so, the reverse of that is, putting them up based on their race? Idk[/quoteadaf484bc4]

i read this somewhere becuase i did a report on this subject a while ago. technically reverse racism is not real. racism is racism, whether it is blacks against whites, whites against blacks, etc. there is no reverses, its racism either way. its just a technicality issue, everyone knows what its supposed to mean.[/quoteadaf484bc4]
Yea, it's still annoying when people use it- but if people took everything literal than, it'd just be weird

[quote236997668b="zr2152"]From the way that ive been educated and what ive learned growing up, racism has a lot to do with your culture, what time period that you grow up in, and you SES (Social Economic Status).

SES has a lot to do with it more than anything. Racism is not ever going to become extinct. There are also racism towards other ppl growing around us. For my generation, I feel that [b236997668b]Muslims[/b236997668b] are at the top of my generation, blacks at the top of my parents/grandparents and japanese at the top of my grandparents and greatgrandparents generations.[/quote236997668b]

Islam is not a race...It's a religion.