AIM is not private anymore!

be careful of what you say on aim now..

[quotea64b54e2e2="www.AIMNews.com"]AOL has updated it's AIM terms of service to remove any hint of privacy in your AIM messages and anything having to do with AIM. "...by posting Content on an AIM Product, you grant AOL, its parent, affiliates, subsidiaries, assigns, agents and licensees the irrevocable, perpetual, worldwide right to reproduce, display, perform, distribute, adapt and promote this Content in any medium. You waive any right to privacy." Very sad news indeed. They clearly do not care about you or your privacy in AIM.[/quotea64b54e2e2]

although i think it's more of like the chatroom stuff but still... AOL could go farther with this... i think AIM is getting crappier and crappier.

so what the hell does that means to us? that's a very confusing extract. does that mean conversations? profiles? or what?

It means, if you are giving someone like, the address to your web cam, and your under 18, they can do something about it.

[quote795fdb26bd="hovigga"]It means, if you are giving someone like, the address to your web cam, and your under 18, they can do something about it.[/quote795fdb26bd]

or if you talk about something illegal like downloading music... or warez, which is something i do frequently, haha

It just applies to chat rooms, and really, I wouldn't expect much in the way of privacy over unsecured chat, regardless of what AOL does. Sniffing out unsecured conversations isn't too difficult for 3rd parties.

For that matter, the feds can effectively "tap" your conversations with a subpoena if they think you're up to illegal activities and there's nothing AOL could do about it.

Moral of the story chat for fun, swap sensitive info only with PGP email, and don't do anything illegal, regardless. )

Like they really have enough manpower to monitor the millions of people chatting on AIM?

Its called computers. Computers, im sure, can be set up to moniter what you say, and then, if it finds a word like lets say, warez, it can detect it, and save your name to a list of people who were talking about warez.

yeah its probably the same thing as they have set up with phone conversations, where they have a list of trigger words that have them record and monitor your conversation

The government has programs set up that can monitor what you say over the telephone for certain key words. It would be 100 times easier to do it over an instant message. Honestly, I'm surprised that they've just started to monitor AIM messages. I figured they were doing it long ago.

I agree. The NSA has algorithms that search for key words. They can do it on phone taps and public internet message boards, but now that aim is monitored, they might be able to catch terrorists, hackers, sex offenders, or people who do free offers online )


[quote1ed79a0718="nicd.01"]The government has programs set up that can monitor what you say over the telephone for certain key words. It would be 100 times easier to do it over an instant message. Honestly, I'm surprised that they've just started to monitor AIM messages. I figured they were doing it long ago.[/quote1ed79a0718]

WHAT HAS THE WORLD GONE TOO?

No shit^^

[quoted92ebd5415="cal9988"]I agree. The NSA has algorithms that search for key words. They can do it on phone taps and public internet message boards, but now that aim is monitored, they might be able to catch terrorists, hackers, sex offenders, or people who do free offers online )


[quoted92ebd5415="nicd.01"]The government has programs set up that can monitor what you say over the telephone for certain key words. It would be 100 times easier to do it over an instant message. Honestly, I'm surprised that they've just started to monitor AIM messages. I figured they were doing it long ago.[/quoted92ebd5415][/quoted92ebd5415]

It used to be called Echelon, though now it's probably something else, but does the same thing. Chat conversations were always included in that. Does it still exist? Yep, probably.

they have always had that ability... maybe not legally on paper but its AOL
that all seeing eye is always watching you. evil bastards

Not sure if it's still called Echelon but I know it was. I saw a program a few years ago (Dateline, maybe) and they talked to a woman who is listed as a suspected terrorist. It turns out that when talking about a play her son was in she made the mistake of saying that "he really bombed the play." Evidentally, the fact that she said "bomb" over the telephone was grounds to list her as a potential terrorist. I shudder to think of the qualifications to be put on the "list" now... And after some thinking, I remembered the Total Information Awareness program. It's now called the Terrorist Information Awareness because the original name scared the hell out of people. It's basically the same concept of, well, total information awareness and a lot of people have a lot of problems with it. Check out their Big Brother logo at http//www.computerbytesman.com/tia/iaologo.gif

They've since changed it but you get the idea.

it is called echelon, i read it in a book nano. (great book by the way..)

but yea.. still i'd rather have my AIM convos be private..

unless your selling large amts of drugs, arms, or doin VERY illegal stuff.....your really in no danger.

now with the AIM thing, does this mean if you discuss an invention with someone over aim , AOL has the right to steal that idea and patent it themselves?

weird...and gay

[quote30353e5302="Lunarpancake"]unless your selling large amts of drugs, arms, or doin VERY illegal stuff.....your really in no danger.

now with the AIM thing, does this mean if you discuss an invention with someone over aim , AOL has the right to steal that idea and patent it themselves?

weird...and gay[/quote30353e5302]

probably, knowing AOL..

AOL would take your invention, slap a little yellow man sticker on it, and call it the AOL ass wiping toothbrush (atleast....if thats what your invention was)

AOL, YOU SUCK! I hope you're reading this )

ok this is scary to know. i would have never thought they would go this far. haha i always talk about dlin stuff online but i dont know if they will actually do something.

But AIM is free so they should be able to do anything they want I dont see what to complain about

Just to underscore the changes to the ToS agreement only apply to chat "rooms," message boards, or other public fora. They do not apply to private chats.

Sheesh.

[quotef58775c89d="xs10shul"]Just to underscore the changes to the ToS agreement only apply to chat "rooms," message boards, or other public fora. They do not apply to private chats.

Sheesh.[/quotef58775c89d]

ahhh , but not yet. -)

Oh man! AOL chat rooms are my only source of obtaining illegal docu—[b8b552e5477]li gets sniped li[/b8b552e5477][/color8b552e5477]

well it really doesnt matter what they say, it applies to they still have the ability to and you know they do it..so... i mean its like if you had the chance to buy a Ferrari are you gonna just say no I'm content knowing i could have bought one or are you gonna buy one drive down the coast and act like you own the world for a while wink

[quotee71eab246c="xs10shul"]Just to underscore the changes to the ToS agreement only apply to chat "rooms," message boards, or other public fora. They do not apply to private chats.

Sheesh.[/quotee71eab246c]by private chats, you mean the ones that are encrypted by AOL for $?

[quote8aa6b56ed5="techdude05"][quote8aa6b56ed5="xs10shul"]Just to underscore the changes to the ToS agreement only apply to chat "rooms," message boards, or other public fora. They do not apply to private chats.

Sheesh.[/quote8aa6b56ed5]by private chats, you mean the ones that are encrypted by AOL for $?[/quote8aa6b56ed5]

Thinks he just means user to user chats. Not encrypted ones.